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APG Sat Jun 01, 2013 08:27pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 896301)
I just do not believe in principle giving two different Ts there. It is all in the same action and the official got there to stop anything else.

Peace

Do you mean you don't believe that Anderson should have gotten two T's instead of the one he got? I think in an NBA game, that's how this would be handled 9/10 times.

AremRed Sat Jun 01, 2013 08:34pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 896301)
I just do not believe in principle giving two different Ts there. It is all in the same action and the official got there to stop anything else.

In that case, someone should have told Tyler to get in a free shove cuz it's all covered by one T.

JRutledge Sat Jun 01, 2013 09:25pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 896304)
In that case, someone should have told Tyler to get in a free shove cuz it's all covered by one T.

So are you saying you give a T for each curse word when players a jawing at each other too?

Everything was directed at the same person in the same sequence. I do not see those as two completely different acts.

Peace

Camron Rust Sun Jun 02, 2013 02:57am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 896290)
I believe you were suggesting that another T should be called for the same event. Not sure that is something I would do in this situation or proper.

Also I believe my statements were first. ;)

Peace

I was not. I said that calls should been a flagrant on Anderson for the live ball contact and ONE T on Andersen for the dead ball action. I was suggesting that there should be no way that Andersen get out of that with ONLY the flagrant.

JRutledge Sun Jun 02, 2013 08:45am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 896338)
I was not. I said that calls should been a flagrant on Anderson for the live ball contact and ONE T on Andersen for the dead ball action. I was suggesting that there should be no way that Andersen get out of that with ONLY the flagrant.

He got a T as well after the Flagrant Foul.

Peace

BillyMac Sun Jun 02, 2013 09:07am

Curse Words For Dummies ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 896312)
So are you saying you give a T for each curse word when players a jawing at each other too?

"Mother" is not a curse word, and should not add to the penalty.

Adam Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:53am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 896349)
"Mother" is not a curse word, and should not add to the penalty.

It is, however, an extenuating circumstance that comes with increased penalty.

Camron Rust Sun Jun 02, 2013 01:38pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 896345)
He got a T as well after the Flagrant Foul.

Peace

And that is exactly what I was saying he should have received. :/

If you want to keep arguing for my point, I'll let you have both sides and I'll step aside.

JRutledge Sun Jun 02, 2013 04:11pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 896360)
And that is exactly what I was saying he should have received. :/

If you want to keep arguing for my point, I'll let you have both sides and I'll step aside.

I was under the impression he got all those penalties. It seems like you were saying he didn't or you were not aware he got those penalties in the first place.

Peace

canuckrefguy Sun Jun 02, 2013 05:48pm

http://content.internetvideoarchive....8/004966_3.jpg

:p

Adam Sun Jun 02, 2013 06:19pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 896367)
I was under the impression he got all those penalties. It seems like you were saying he didn't or you were not aware he got those penalties in the first place.

Peace

When this discussion started, he hadn't had all of those penalties, some came after the game was over, remember?

APG Sun Jun 02, 2013 06:46pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 896380)
When this discussion started, he hadn't had all of those penalties, some came after the game was over, remember?

The only penalty that came after the game was over was Anderson getting his FF1 upgraded to a FF2. He was already given a T as part of the double T with Tyler.

I thought the argument was whether Anderson should have received a second T for the shove after the two players squared off.

JRutledge Sun Jun 02, 2013 06:59pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 896380)
When this discussion started, he hadn't had all of those penalties, some came after the game was over, remember?

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 896383)
The only penalty that came after the game was over was Anderson getting his additional FF1 upgraded to a FF2. He was already given a T as part of the double T with Tyler.

I thought the argument was whether Anderson should have received a second T for the shove after the two players squared off.

APG's post is spot on. At least that is what I thought Camron was trying to debate with me that he should have received another T then was already given in the game. I guess there is a case to be made, but I just think that is being too technical when everything took place at the same basic time.

Peace

AremRed Sun Jun 02, 2013 08:16pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 896383)
The only penalty that came after the game was over was Anderson getting his FF1 upgraded to a FF2. He was already given a T as part of the double T with Tyler.

I can't find it on the NBA website, but according to several other news outlets the NBA rescinded Hanbrough's technical as well.

Adam Sun Jun 02, 2013 08:40pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 896383)
The only penalty that came after the game was over was Anderson getting his FF1 upgraded to a FF2. He was already given a T as part of the double T with Tyler.

I thought the argument was whether Anderson should have received a second T for the shove after the two players squared off.

I thought it was about whether Anderson should have been tossed for any of his stupidity. FF2 or the initial hit, or a flagrant T for the shove (if that's even an option in the NBA.)


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