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MathReferee Wed May 22, 2013 04:03pm
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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 895128)
I see no try. If this is a foul, it's not a shooting foul... that said, I see no foul either.
Do you not see a try because of the apparent lack of control? Or do you not think he had begun the habitual shooting motion?

I could understand the former, but would not agree if it is the latter.

#olderthanilook Wed May 22, 2013 04:38pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 895127)
In the air? How do you embellish in the air?

Peace
He flops his right arm out away from his body thereby exaggerating what could possibly be miscontrued as a shooting motion. Most people (and I would hope the officials) know Manu is a lefty - especially from 40 feet.

In slo mo, he loses control of the ball on his left butt cheek while fumbling a dribble. Sensing he's in trouble (and being a smart competitor) he tries to feign a shot attempt by flailing his right arm. He manages to draw contact.....and a whistle.

In real time, I may have had the same thing as the calling official.

JRutledge Wed May 22, 2013 04:49pm
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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 895137)
He flops his right arm out away from his body thereby exaggerating what could possibly be miscontrued as a shooting motion. Most people (and I would hope the officials) know Manu is a lefty - especially from 40 feet.

In slo mo, he loses control of the ball on his left butt cheek while fumbling a dribble. Sensing he's in trouble (and being a smart competitor) he tries to feign a shot attempt by flailing his right arm. He manages to draw contact.....and a whistle.

In real time, I may have had the same thing as the calling official.
I am not suggesting that when he hit the floor he did not embellish, but not with his arm being grabbed to prevent him from shooting the ball.

And for the record they did go and review the play and came to the same conclusion they did when the whistle was blown. And if Ginobli would have just slapped the arm and did nothing else then I might agree with you. But he held on to Allen's arm and pulled him down. That is a dangerous play and should be called and ruled accordingly to the way it took place.

Peace

Raymond Wed May 22, 2013 05:47pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 895139)
I am not suggesting that when he hit the floor he did not embellish, but not with his arm being grabbed to prevent him from shooting the ball.

And for the record they did go and review the play and came to the same conclusion they did when the whistle was blown. And if Ginobli would have just slapped the arm and did nothing else then I might agree with you. But he held on to Allen's arm and pulled him down. That is a dangerous play and should be called and ruled accordingly to the way it took place.

Peace
Wrong thread....LOL

JRutledge Wed May 22, 2013 11:18pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 895149)
Wrong thread....LOL
You are right. ;)

Peace

#olderthanilook Thu May 23, 2013 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 895139)
I am not suggesting that when he hit the floor he did not embellish, but not with his arm being grabbed to prevent him from shooting the ball.

And for the record they did go and review the play and came to the same conclusion they did when the whistle was blown. And if Ginobli would have just slapped the arm and did nothing else then I might agree with you. But he held on to Allen's arm and pulled him down. That is a dangerous play and should be called and ruled accordingly to the way it took place.

Peace
"Dangerous"?

I'm big on "protecting the shooter", but let's be real. Manu is not a right handed shooter. He's a lefty. He wasn't shooting the ball. Rather, just trying to draw contact. He got a "grab"...and it wasn't dangerous. Now, if the defender grabbed a leg or tripped him, then ya, I'd go along with "dangerous" in that play.

APG Thu May 23, 2013 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 895238)
"Dangerous"?

I'm big on "protecting the shooter", but let's be real. Manu is not a right handed shooter. He's a lefty. He wasn't shooting the ball. Rather, just trying to draw contact. He got a "grab"...and it wasn't dangerous. Now, if the defender grabbed a leg or tripped him, then ya, I'd go along with "dangerous" in that play.
It's been already pointed out, but he was responding to the wrong thread when he wrote that.

#olderthanilook Thu May 23, 2013 01:15pm
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Originally Posted by APG (Post 895242)
It's been already pointed out, but he was responding to the wrong thread when he wrote that.
:o

sorry 'bout that, rut

JRutledge Thu May 23, 2013 01:54pm
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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 895253)
:o

sorry 'bout that, rut
No your fault. I was reading into something not paying attention and responded to the wrong topic. That is what you get when you open too many windows at the same time. My bad.

Peace

BillyMac Thu May 23, 2013 04:33pm
Very Relevent, Plus, It's A Great Quote, From A Great Movie ...
 
... and it's only ten seconds.

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 895149)
Wrong thread...
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Originally Posted by APG (Post 895242)
He was responding to the wrong thread ...
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 895271)
Not paying attention and responded to the wrong topic.
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