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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 05:28pm
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 05:29pm
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 05:37pm
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If Mulkey doesn't deserve a T for that outburst, no one should ever get one. I couldn't believe she didn't get stuck.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 05:53pm
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If Mulkey doesn't deserve a T for that outburst, no one should ever get one. I couldn't believe she didn't get stuck.
The two officials that had the best look didn't call a charge because it wasn't a charge. The T was running the other way and stopped to comeback for the call with the worst view of the 3. The L and C knew it and knew that call just changed the game unfairly. I bet they didn't want to double up on the wrong call by sticking the coach too making a bigger travesty of the situation. Perhaps the T knew it was a bad call too and decided to take their lumps rather than compound the situation.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 05:57pm
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The two officials that had the best look didn't call a charge because it wasn't a charge. The T was running the other way and stopped to comeback for the call with the worst view of the 3. The L and C knew it and knew that call just changed the game unfairly. I bet they didn't want to double up on the wrong call by sticking the coach too making a bigger travesty of the situation. Perhaps the T knew it was a bad call too and decided to take their lumps rather than compound the situation.
L-Ville coach just got stuck for sitting on the scorers table. They had to get that. Even if the call was egregious. She can't act that way, two wrongs don't make a right.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 06:13pm
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L-Ville coach just got stuck for sitting on the scorers table. They had to get that. Even if the call was egregious. She can't act that way, two wrongs don't make a right.
Is that what he did? I was wondering, as the camera never showed it during the game.

I'm with you, though. I'm willing to let a coach vent quietly in a case like that, but stomping around like she did can't be allowed just because she thinks they made a bad call. She's an adult for crying out loud. That was a tantrum, and it continued into the press conference after the game.

I've asked this question elsewhere, I'll ask it here.

In what other profession can you act like a child and be excused because it was a stressful situation that didn't go your way?
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 06:17pm
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Is that what he did? I was wondering, as the camera never showed it during the game.

I'm with you, though. I'm willing to let a coach vent quietly in a case like that, but stomping around like she did can't be allowed just because she thinks they made a bad call. She's an adult for crying out loud. That was a tantrum, and it continued into the press conference after the game.

I've asked this question elsewhere, I'll ask it here.

In what other profession can you act like a child and be excused because it was a stressful situation that didn't go your way?
I would probably not stick him for just sitting on the table, I would bet he said something also. I agree with you about letting her vent. Especially as the L and C passed.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 08:59pm
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L-Ville coach just got stuck for sitting on the scorers table. They had to get that. Even if the call was egregious. She can't act that way, two wrongs don't make a right.
BTW, one thing regarding the T on Walz (the Louisville HC). He'd been given a stop sign 4½ minutes into the game so it wasn't as though it was just pulled out of thin air. Not that giving him a T has any bearing on the lack of a T on Mulkey in this case. I just wanted to point it out so folks know Walz already had a warning when he got stuck.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 09:05pm
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BTW, one thing regarding the T on Walz (the Louisville HC). He'd been given a stop sign 4½ minutes into the game so it wasn't as though it was just pulled out of thin air. Not that giving him a T has any bearing on the lack of a T on Mulkey in this case. I just wanted to point it out so folks know Walz already had a warning when he got stuck.
I get that he had been given a warning, however some acts don't need, or deserve a warning, in my eyes her acts don't deserve one, but who knows I might not have given her one either. I would like to think I would.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 06:31pm
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The two officials that had the best look didn't call a charge because it wasn't a charge. The T was running the other way and stopped to comeback for the call with the worst view of the 3. The L and C knew it and knew that call just changed the game unfairly. I bet they didn't want to double up on the wrong call by sticking the coach too making a bigger travesty of the situation. Perhaps the T knew it was a bad call too and decided to take their lumps rather than compound the situation.
I would agree with that being their thought process. But you just compounded one mistake (charge) with another (no T).
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Kim Mulkey interview with Jason Whitlock.

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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 06:53pm
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I would agree with that being their thought process. But you just compounded one mistake (charge) with another (no T).
Not necessarily. Calling the T could be viewed as compounding the original error if the call was clearly wrong as the T would penalize the same team that just got screwed.

If I've just completely botched a call, I'm going to give a coach a LOT of room to vent. If it is my partner's call that is botched, I'm going to let them decide how much room they're going to give.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 07:06pm
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Not necessarily. Calling the T could be viewed as compounding the original error if the call was clearly wrong as the T would penalize the same team that just got screwed.

If I've just completely botched a call, I'm going to give a coach a LOT of room to vent. If it is my partner's call that is botched, I'm going to let them decide how much room they're going to give.
I agree, I've done it. I've even told the coach I made a bad call and they have 15 sec to let me have it (usually defuses it). But this case was so egregious you can't look past it. I may have needed to be clearer that I was speaking of this instance in particular.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 03:47pm
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The two officials that had the best look didn't call a charge because it wasn't a charge. The T was running the other way and stopped to comeback for the call with the worst view of the 3.
Someone probably mentioned to T after the game that she was third in the chain of command on the play. It came from C and he didn't move a muscle to make a call. It was going towards L and she didn't move a muscle either.
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