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Old Mon Apr 01, 2013, 10:18pm
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Maybe it is just HS officials in your area that don't know traveling. Perhaps it is their instructors that don't teach it to them correctly.

EDIT: And I actually see those travels called incorrectly MORE often in college games that I do in HS games. A high dribble at those levels almost always gets a whistle.
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I have watched video of plays from high school officials all over the country and it is not just something that takes place in one area. Obviously people from California or IAABO feel the same way when they have produced videos on YouTube and on DVD suggesting otherwise. And that does not include the videos we have seen here alone. And every time we get a POE about some traveling situation is more evidence that someone feels high school officials are not doing a great job calling traveling correctly.

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Old Mon Apr 01, 2013, 10:39pm
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He traveled twice.
He actually travelled once and committed 2 illegal dribble. The 2nd illegal dribble occurs in conjunction with his 1 travel.
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Old Mon Apr 01, 2013, 11:24pm
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He actually travelled once and committed 2 illegal dribble. The 2nd illegal dribble occurs in conjunction with his 1 travel.
No, he hopped and landed. Travel

Then he jumped, released the ball, then recovered it. Travel

I didn't see an illegal dribble.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 07:07am
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No, he hopped and landed. Travel

Then he jumped, released the ball, then recovered it. Travel

I didn't see an illegal dribble.
How many different times did he dribble? I count 3 separate dribbles. (Dribbble then fumble; a singe dribble after the fumble; dribble when he jumped and dropped the ball picked it up then passed)

That first hop is a jump stop, he was allowed that. The travel came when he jumped again after the jump stop and drop the ball for what was now his 3rd dribble in this sequence.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 10:49am
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How many different times did he dribble? I count 3 separate dribbles. (Dribbble then fumble; a singe dribble after the fumble; dribble when he jumped and dropped the ball picked it up then passed)

That first hop is a jump stop, he was allowed that. The travel came when he jumped again after the jump stop and drop the ball for what was now his 3rd dribble in this sequence.
I didn't consider the second one a dribble, no control, but if you did I could live with it. The first hop is off one foot, and he lands on just that same foot. That is not a jump stop. The third dribble can't be an illegal dribble because it's a travel for releasing it with the pivot off the floor.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 12:42pm
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I didn't consider the second one a dribble, no control, but if you did I could live with it. The first hop is off one foot, and he lands on just that same foot. That is not a jump stop. The third dribble can't be an illegal dribble because it's a travel for releasing it with the pivot off the floor.
He still dribbled after he travelled. So that was an illegal dribble b/c of his previous dribble(s).
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 01:49pm
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He still dribbled after he travelled. So that was an illegal dribble b/c of his previous dribble(s).
So, it is both a travel and an illegal dribble.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 02:10pm
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So, it is both a travel and an illegal dribble.
Which I believe I stated a long time ago in this thread.

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How many different times did he dribble? I count 3 separate dribbles. (Dribbble then fumble; a singe dribble after the fumble; dribble when he jumped and dropped the ball picked it up then passed)

That first hop is a jump stop, he was allowed that. The travel came when he jumped again after the jump stop and drop the ball for what was now his 3rd dribble in this sequence.
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He actually travelled once and committed 2 illegal dribble. The 2nd illegal dribble occurs in conjunction with his 1 travel.
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