Duke-Louisville travel/no call clip (Curry 1st half)

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JeffM

Questionable no call with Seth Curry at 50.8

[Raymond]

First we have an illegal dribble. Curry dribbles, fumbles the gather, then dribbles one more time. Then after regaining possession he travels when after having already hopped on his right foot once he then jumps again and drops the ball for another dribble.

[JRutledge]

I do not see this necessarily as a miss. It looks like there is a question does he ever get the ball back cleanly. Maybe he does, but I can clearly see this as a question in the mind of the official and see why this was not called. I have no problem if the official still has not ruled control.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

When he picked up the ball, he hopped and landed. Then he fumbled the ball again. It was both ugly and a travel.

[twocentsworth]

I can't believe that a traveling violation was not called here.

Believe it or not, Stevie Wonder tweeted that even he SAW a travel on this play!

[Adam]

I rewound this repeatedly, thinking it was a travel live. I see the T was signaling a fumble, largely because he didn't have the angle to tell that Curry had dropped it on purpose. Would have been hilarious for the C to come in and call travel as T is doing his little fumble signal.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

I rewound this repeatedly, thinking it was a travel live. I see the T was signaling a fumble, largely because he didn't have the angle to tell that Curry had dropped it on purpose. Would have been hilarious for the C to come in and call travel as T is doing his little fumble signal.

The thing is it was really close. Just the way he had the ball in his hands makes me question if he ever had control. Again, I have no problem with passing on this when you are not sure. And it appears by what you stated the official felt he did not have control of the ball. Judgment call like many things we see in games. But most HS officials would have clearly called this a travel.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

But most HS officials would have clearly called this a travel.

Peace

And most HS officials would have been right.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And most HS officials would have right.

Like the other times they call traveling without control or high dribbles illegal? OK, you go with that one.

Peace

[just another ref]

He traveled twice.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Like the other times they call traveling without control or high dribbles illegal? OK, you go with that one.

Peace

Maybe it is just HS officials in your area that don't know traveling. Perhaps it is their instructors that don't teach it to them correctly.

EDIT: And I actually see those travels called incorrectly MORE often in college games that I do in HS games. A high dribble at those levels almost always gets a whistle.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Maybe it is just HS officials in your area that don't know traveling. Perhaps it is their instructors that don't teach it to them correctly.

My kids are wondering why I'm laughing.

Calling this a travel would have been the correct call. One's opinions of other mis-called travels doesn't change that.
And given the earlier travel (that wasn't a travel) that this crew called against Duke, these guys aren't perfect either.

For the record and for what it's worth, I thought this crew did a great job.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Adam

For the record and for what it's worth, I thought this crew did a great job.

+1,000,000. Extremely hard game to call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Maybe it is just HS officials in your area that don't know traveling. Perhaps it is their instructors that don't teach it to them correctly.

EDIT: And I actually see those travels called incorrectly MORE often in college games that I do in HS games. A high dribble at those levels almost always gets a whistle.

I have watched video of plays from high school officials all over the country and it is not just something that takes place in one area. Obviously people from California or IAABO feel the same way when they have produced videos on YouTube and on DVD suggesting otherwise. And that does not include the videos we have seen here alone. And every time we get a POE about some traveling situation is more evidence that someone feels high school officials are not doing a great job calling traveling correctly.

Peace

[OKREF]

This is what I see. Dribble, fumble, dribble, pick the ball up, jumps, releases the ball while in the air, and picks it up again. Please don't say that a Loiusville player touched, they don't at any point touch the ball. The dribble, fumble dribble is violation #1. Jumping off both feet and releasing the ball is violation #2, as the ball wasn't released prior to pivot foot being moved.