Video Request: WSU vs OSU (Video Added)

[JRutledge]

7:03 in the second half.

OSU player is called for a block (in the restricted area) but I am wondering if it would be a charge anywhere else on the court? They show two good replays.

Peace

[JRutledge]

About 4:02 on the clock there is an out of bounds play that it appears the thrower does not get back in bounds when the ball is passed back to him form WSU. Replay shows he might have gotten his heel up when he contacts the ball.

Peace

[The_Rookie]

Clip please Jetmetfan:

3:01 of 2nd half..Player Control foul

Thanks!

[4-40]

2nd half: PC at 18:40

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Clip please Jetmetfan:

3:01 of 2nd half..Player Control foul

Thanks!

Saw it live. If it's the one I'm thinking of, the ball handler definitely made it easy for the calling official. He stiff armed the defender who gave a pretty good performance throwing himself backward. Embellished by the defender...but still a good call.

[junruh07]

I wish I remember when this play happened, but hopefully someone else will. An OSU player got called for a PC, and he got the WSU player pretty good on the chin with his elbow on the way up. They went to the monitor and came back with nothing. With some of the other elbows that have gotten called in the tournament (I don't remember what game it was, but the player who got a FF1 who was past his defender, but accidentally hit him with his arm as he was running by) I thought it could have been a FF1. It looked to me like it fit non-excessive elbow contact above the shoulders, but I am curious to hear what some other guys think.

[junruh07]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

7:03 in the second half.

OSU player is called for a block (in the restricted area) but I am wondering if it would be a charge anywhere else on the court? They show two good replays.

Peace

It looked to me like a PC if his feet weren't on the line.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by 4-40

2nd half: PC at 18:40

Originally Posted by JRutledge

7:03 in the second half.

OSU player is called for a block (in the restricted area) but I am wondering if it would be a charge anywhere else on the court? They show two good replays.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

About 4:02 on the clock there is an out of bounds play that it appears the thrower does not get back in bounds when the ball is passed back to him form WSU. Replay shows he might have gotten his heel up when he contacts the ball.

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

3:01 of 2nd half..Player Control foul

[referee99]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

7:03 in the second half.

OSU player is called for a block (in the restricted area) but I am wondering if it would be a charge anywhere else on the court? They show two good replays.

Peace

Defender moved into the path of airborne shooter.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Saw it live. If it's the one I'm thinking of, the ball handler definitely made it easy for the calling official. He stiff armed the defender who gave a pretty good performance throwing himself backward. Embellished by the defender...but still a good call.

At 3:01...I stand corrected...more of an offensive arm bar than a stiff arm. Still, a good call I think.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by referee99

Defender moved into the path of airborne shooter.

No chance. The shooter wasn't airborne and the defender had two feet down in the spot where he took the contact. Without the RA, I have a charge.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by referee99

Defender moved into the path of airborne shooter.

I see his feet there before the player went airborne. I would have a charge in a HS game on this one and college one if not for the RA.

Now do you want to debate this when the still picture is shown and I am proven right and you are proven wrong? (Yes that is sarcasm)

Peace

[JRutledge]

By all accounts it look like he got the out of bounds correct as well.

They showed a replay but it was close and this was slowed down and I am more confident that this was correct. I guess the only issue is was the heel off the floor, but he is standing right there.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

PC1: 2nd:18:30....if they were consistent with the other applications of the elbow/FF1 rule that we've seen, this would have been a FF1. I don't like that conclusion and actually prefer it as they called it...but it was not consistent.

RA Block @ 2nd:7:30. PC...he gained LGP outside of RA and moved to maintain it and ended up on the RA. If you only look where he is at the time of contact, you'd have an RA block. However, the RA rules are based on initial LGP, not position at the time of contact. His final position was also obtained before the shooter left the floor.

EDIT: More on this one...at about 15.5 seconds into the slow-mo replay, you can see that the defender is facing the dribbler, both feet on the floor (defender's shoes have the red trim, offense shoes are all black), and the dribbler is coming right at him (in the dribbler's path) and the defender is about 1 foot outside the RA. LGP obtained. At about 16 seconds on the slo-mo, he stepped to the right to maintain LGP but stepped into the RA with his right foot, he then slid his left foot in to a point also in the RA. Then the shooter left the floor. LGP Maintained.

OOB @ 2nd:4:02... inconclusive. #22's head was blocking what needed to be seen in the first angle and the other angle really didn't show it clearly enough either.

PC @ 2nd:3:01. A bit of exaggeration. Contact, yes, a bit of a arm sweep, yes. But it was not nearly enough to have caused #3 to get knocked to the floor. I'd not call it for that reason alone. #3 took himself out of the play more then he got pushed out of the play.

[referee99]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I see his feet there before the player went airborne. I would have a charge in a HS game on this one and college one if not for the RA.

Now do you want to debate this when the still picture is shown and I am proven right and you are proven wrong? (Yes that is sarcasm)

Peace

But from this angle....