Michigan State-Duke clip(s)

[Bad Zebra]

For me, the trend is disturbing. More and more D1 officials seem to be laying off the travels reviewed by these three clips. I agree...all three are travels. Most disturbing is the way the spin move is ignored. As a HS official, I have seen it increase at my level. I make a point of calling it when I see it. Not all my fellow officials are as vigilant. So now, the trend established at D1 is becoming prevalent in HS. I make a call and I get the "What did I do" routine.

Why does this bother me? BECAUSE IT IS A DEPARTURE FROM THE FREAKIN' RULES! College is becoming more like the NBE...and now it's creeping into the HS game.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bad zebra

for me, the trend is disturbing. More and more d1 officials seem to be laying off the travels reviewed by these three clips. I agree...all three are travels. Most disturbing is the way the spin move is ignored. As a hs official, i have seen it increase at my level. I make a point of calling it when i see it. Not all my fellow officials are as vigilant. So now, the trend established at d1 is becoming prevalent in hs. I make a call and i get the "what did i do" routine.

Why does this bother me? Because it is a departure from the freakin' rules! College is becoming more like the nbe...and now it's creeping into the hs game.

+1

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

For me, the trend is disturbing. More and more D1 officials seem to be laying off the travels reviewed by these three clips. I agree...all three are travels. Most disturbing is the way the spin move is ignored. As a HS official, I have seen it increase at my level. I make a point of calling it when I see it. Not all my fellow officials are as vigilant. So now, the trend established at D1 is becoming prevalent in HS. I make a call and I get the "What did I do" routine.

Why does this bother me? BECAUSE IT IS A DEPARTURE FROM THE FREAKIN' RULES! College is becoming more like the NBE...and now it's creeping into the HS game.

Then you must be disturbed by all the travels that HS officials call that are not travels. High dribbles, fumbled ball called a travel. Man I wish I had a penny every time I see a high dribble called illegal in HS. That is also a departure of the rules. And I really hope that you are not equating a complaining player to what happens at other levels. College players say less than anyone in basketball to officials. They know they cannot act up. You think Jim Burr, Teddy Valentine or any other big name that will be around a lot longer than most of these kids is going to put up with some kid yelling at them?

And funny there is an NBE reference to what happens at the lower levels. That is rich after all the self-righteous ranting about travels I have read over the years and the NBA has a different set of rules or standards to what they consider a travel.

Peace

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Then you must be disturbed by all the travels that HS officials call that are not travels. High dribbles, fumbled ball called a travel. Man I wish I had a penny every time I see a high dribble called illegal in HS. That is also a departure of the rules...

Peace

Yep. It is disturbing. And it is addressed and stressed every pre-season locally and during the season when it's observed. In our association (and even state level to a degree), we stress "just because it looks funny, it's not a travel". Constant focus and feedback by observers and veterans. I'm comfortable that we are doing our part locally. I wish I could see evidence of the same at the college level.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Yep. It is disturbing. And it is addressed and stressed every pre-season locally and during the season when it's observed. In our association (and even state level to a degree), we stress "just because it looks funny, it's not a travel". Constant focus and feedback by observers and veterans. I'm comfortable that we are doing our part locally. I wish I could see eveidence of the same at the college level.

We give feedback too and talk about it and it is still called too often. I can live with a missed travel that is hard to tell, I cannot stand a traveled called because it did not happen. That to me is much worse.

And many so-called High School Officials on this board said a play earlier in the tournament said a travel should have been called on a shot where the shooter planted his pivot foot and people here said it was a travel. They said it was a travel in live time, then they said it was a travel after replay. That is why I say what I say about this topic.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And many so-called High School Officials on this board said a play earlier in the tournament said a travel should have been called on a shot where the shooter planted his pivot foot and people here said it was a travel. They said it was a travel in live time, then they said it was a travel after replay. That is why I say what I say about this topic.

Peace

Hard to argue with this paragraph.

[Raymond]

That spin move is a violation I call regularly. And coaches seem to recognize it now as a travel.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

For me, the trend is disturbing. More and more D1 officials seem to be laying off the travels reviewed by these three clips. I agree...all three are travels. Most disturbing is the way the spin move is ignored. As a HS official, I have seen it increase at my level. I make a point of calling it when I see it. Not all my fellow officials are as vigilant. So now, the trend established at D1 is becoming prevalent in HS. I make a call and I get the "What did I do" routine.

Why does this bother me? BECAUSE IT IS A DEPARTURE FROM THE FREAKIN' RULES! College is becoming more like the NBE...and now it's creeping into the HS game.

Will you be consistent and start calling NCAA basketball some silly name/acronym like people do with the NBA?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by APG

Will you be consistent and start calling NCAA basketball some silly name/acronym like people do with the NBA?

The NCAE?

Peace

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by APG

Will you be consistent and start calling NCAA basketball some silly name/acronym like people do with the NBA?

I could start..I'll work on one...or maybe they already have one that fits: NCAA:No Consistency At All ?