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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:55am
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However if you are are working multiple levels, I would usse different e-mail accounts.....
To what end?
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Adam -

Just curious,,,,have you ever seen arbiter from the assigner side ????
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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:02pm
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Just curious,,,,have you ever seen arbiter from the assigner side ????
No, I haven't. Are you saying you'd use different email accounts as an assigner, or as an official, for different levels?
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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:52pm
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To what end?
Because I dont want my college assignors to see what HS games I work. Also, because one of the college assignors here also does 2 HS leagues and he will not give you a college game if he sees you already have a HS game on that day, even when it isnt one of his HS leagues. As long as he isnt offering me the game on gameday, I am getting off my HS game every time to take any level college game.
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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:12pm
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I'm surprised Brad hasn't chimed in yet...

Football here uses Zebra Ware which I'm not too fond of. My basketball chapter uses Arbiter.

I used to work sub varsity for one assigner out here that uses Ref Town and that was my favorite by far. You put out a good product, Camron.
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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:22pm
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I used to work sub varsity for one assigner out here that uses Ref Town and that was my favorite by far. You put out a good product, Camron.
Get a room.
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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:36pm
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As long as it isn't the same room you will be using next month at BWSC after so suck up to all those pretty DI assistants !!!!!
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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:38pm
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I basically work for two assignors. Before the 2012-13 seasons, only one used Arbiter. The other used pen and paper, then e-mailed game dates to me. He finally switched to Arbiter for all basketball and football in 2012-13.
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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:51pm
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What the assigner sees......

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No, I haven't. Are you saying you'd use different email accounts as an assigner, or as an official, for different levels?
If you are working for example hs / juco / D2 / D2 all on the same website here is what happens.......

Let say you have taken a juco game for Supervisor Billy Mac ( I know would never happen ). Even if you don't close out the game with your other supervisors here is what happens if I (they) were to go into the arbiter to give you a college game.

An assigner using arbiter can choose from the following when assigning games

Available officials or Potential Officiials

AO are officials that have NO restrictions in getting to that game...This is the guy that can go anywhere any time. Also in an unrelated subject names will appear based on the number of assignments you currently have. So if East is playing west and Juggling Ref has 50 assignments and Bad New Ref has 3,
BNR name will come up first and then everybody between BNR and JR.

Most assigners use the Available Officials option beacuase there is no reason that these guys should turn game back...YOU will not appear on the
AO list EVEN if you dont block out the date because you have accepted a hs game.

If you don't block the date, you will only appear on the Potential Officials list....this tells me that you have some sort of issue that will make things a bit difficult ( you have a hs game you need to get out of)

Why as an assigner would i want to choose from porential if i know you have some sort of "issue"

NOW........if you used [email protected] for your hs assigner and taken that game and used [email protected] for your D2 league, I would see you as open with no restrictions every time I wanted to give you an assignment.

Most guys I know that work small college basketball have a seperate hs arb account /
a juco arb account / D2 arb account / and if working D1 a seperate account....all with different e-mail addresses.....

This way the guy higher up always sees you as open with no restrictions....

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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:52pm
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Being an official that has always used excel and email for assigning games for about 6-8 other officials, I'd be interested to see how these products work. Is it even cost effective with this number of officials?
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Being an official that has always used excel and email for assigning games for about 6-8 other officials, I'd be interested to see how these products work. Is it even cost effective with this number of officials?
With just 6 - 8 guys, I don't see a need for the arbiter for you.....
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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:11pm
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If you are working for example hs / juco / D2 / D2 all on the same website here is what happens.......

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Thanks for that. Thinking I will add a new GMAIL account for this.

Question: I had been using the option NOT TO SHARE my high school assignments with my college supervisors. Does this still show me as "Potential" instead of "Available"?

No matter the answer, I'm going add a new account just for my HS stuff.

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Thanks for that. Thinking I will add a new GMAIL account for this.

Question: I had been using the option NOT TO SHARE my high school assignments with my college supervisors. Does this still show me as "Potential" instead of "Available"?

No matter the answer, I'm going add a new account just for my HS stuff.

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You show as potential !!!!!
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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:19pm
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You show as potential !!!!!
Might explain a couple things (or at least I hope it does....LOL)
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Cost Effective ???

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Being an official that has always used excel and email for assigning games for about 6-8 other officials, I'd be interested to see how these products work. Is it even cost effective with this number of officials?
My Catholic middle school assigner uses Arbiter for 15 schools (boys, girls, "varsity", "junior varsity" A, and "junior varsity" B, and 41 working officials. "Varsity" teams play an eighteen game schedule. "Junior varsity" teams play an eight game schedule. My assigner is paid $125.00 by each school to assign games ($1,875.00), and, according to BayStateRef, the Arbiter cost would be around $225.00. Also, his officials don't pay any assignment fees.
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