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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 11:30am
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I wouldn't make it harder than it has to be. In your opinion did he call it while you had it or when the player had it. Personally, once I bounce the ball the coach "didn't get it requested in time"
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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 11:41am
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Personally, once I bounce the ball the coach "didn't get it requested in time"
Why not follow the rules?
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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 11:50am
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I wouldn't make it harder than it has to be. In your opinion did he call it while you had it or when the player had it. Personally, once I bounce the ball the coach "didn't get it requested in time"
At least you're consistent.
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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 12:37pm
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If I've already released the ball to put it at the disposal of the free thrower then by the time I verify that the head coach is the one calling the time out the ball is in the shooters hands.
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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 01:14pm
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If I've already released the ball to put it at the disposal of the free thrower then by the time I verify that the head coach is the one calling the time out the ball is in the shooters hands.
You'll be mad at me then if I'm the C or T in your game b/c I'll be blowing my whistle saying I acknowledged the HC's request before the ball was at A1's disposal.
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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:09pm
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I cannot even believe this is even a debate.

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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:39pm
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Another example, though not as dramatic as some, of the need to further define when a timeout is "granted."
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Old Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:07am
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OK, maybe a post that could have been better expressed. I'm simply saying that after I release the ball to the shooter there isn't a lot of time elapsed before it's in his hand/at his/her disposal. Not much time there to hear the request, look over and respond to it.

If trail, usually facing the table/bench area, sees it and grants the TO then fine.
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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:32pm
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Me either. Grant the freaking timeout and be done with it.
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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:36pm
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Me either. Grant the freaking timeout and be done with it.
I have never known it to be much of an issue in the first place. When as a coach or player been in such confusion they do not ask for a timeout well in advance of this becoming a issue in the first place. That is why you take your time anyway.

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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:13pm
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If I've already released the ball to put it at the disposal of the free thrower then by the time I verify that the head coach is the one calling the time out the ball is in the shooters hands.
Think it through a moment, are you really consistent in the "too late now" application?

You know the coach asked when he was allowed, but your whistle was (rightly) delayed while you verified the (timely) request came from an authorized source. You never grant this timeout?
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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 12:41pm
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I wouldn't make it harder than it has to be. In your opinion did he call it while you had it or when the player had it. Personally, once I bounce the ball the coach "didn't get it requested in time"
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At least you're consistent.

Consistently bad?
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Consistently bad?
Consistent in that the majority of his posts state that he'll invoke a rule that should not apply in the case being discussed and/or flat out invent a rule if necessary. He's going to call whatever he wants to call and it's obvious from his posts and his arguments when called out that he really doesn't care what the rules are and has no intention of learning here.
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Old Thu Mar 21, 2013, 01:05pm
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You guys can refuse this time out request if you like. Is that an annoying and delaying time for a time out? Heck yes. Are you going to be in trouble for doing so? Probably not unless an observer happens to notice.

But just don't try to pretend you're going by the book or have any rule support for doing so when you do it. Cause you don't.
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