2013 IHSA 2A Boys' Final...Ballgame99's Plays to Consider

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

And for ballgame99 I'd like to know what you see the defender doing wrong to consider blocks on plays #3 and #6. I think you and icallfouls need tutorials on refereeing the defense bases on your responses here.

I agree that in both 3 and 6 the defenders looked like they did a good job of getting in LGP, so I would be hesitent to go block on those, but I also don't feel like the contact is significant enough to go PC. I like the PC on 6 way better than on 3 (contact is more significant). The only reason I could conceivable call a block on #3 was due to the level of flopping involved. By throwing himself back like that he has created more contact than would have otherwise been there. These are tough calls.

Thanks JetMet for putting those together.

[Pantherdreams]

1- *PC. I feel like he's exaggerating the contact but the offense is also going into/through the chest and position he legally obtained with no attempt to slow up or avoid. Don't want to give him this call but can't let offense just push way to the basket. Different angle or closeup mght tell me more.

2- NC - Ball is released well before contact, contact is minimal and has no impact on the play either way.

3 - No Call - Not enough there to go either way.

4 - Travel

5 - PC collision sends 2 defenders to the deck and is the offenses responsibility.

6 - NC - Shot is already off offense is trying to avoid d. Defender gets grazed and bails out.


All this being said I'm trying to look at each as a stand alone. If there are this many bodies on the floor in and under shooters al game (looks like a lot of flopping going on) by the 3rd or 4th quarter my standard may be impacted in terms of beliving the d is ever there and getting hit. I'm also going to become more sensitive to airborned shooter landing in and on someone who's choosing to go to ground.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

The only reason I could conceivable call a block on #3 was due to the level of flopping involved. By throwing himself back like that he has created more contact than would have otherwise been there.

Disagree. If anything, his legal backward motion reduces contact to the point where a no-call would be acceptable. No way is a block the right call on this.