How dumb can you be in 0.1 seconds?

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

Manhattan-Iona MAAC Final.

Iona leading by 5 gets TF for its subs running on court with 0.1 to go. Manhattan converts both.

Then Iona inbounds ball and game ends and Iona player decides to hang on Manahattans basket. Now officials, as I would be, were long gone but incredibly stupid acts by a team.

My first automatic pick in the brackets pool, Iona loss no matter who they play.

I'm confused.

Assuming some 'out of his mind' official somewhere makes this call......

If the game is over, by rule, how does this specific act even qualify as a post game T?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

I'm confused.

Assuming some 'out of his mind' official somewhere makes this call......

If the game is over, by rule, how does this specific act even qualify as a post game T?

NCAA 2-4-4
When all three officials leave the visual confines of the playing area at the end of the game, the officials’ jurisdiction has ended and the score has been approved.

combined with...

NCAA 10-6-1f
Grasping either basket in an excessive, emphatic manner during the officials’ jurisdiction when the player is not, in the judgment of an official, trying to prevent an obvious injury to self or others.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

NCAA 2-4-4
When all three officials leave the visual confines of the playing area at the end of the game, the officials’ jurisdiction has ended and the score has been approved.

combined with...

NCAA 10-6-1f
Grasping either basket in an excessive, emphatic manner during the officials’ jurisdiction when the player is not, in the judgment of an official, trying to prevent an obvious injury to self or others.

Maybe he was grasping the rim b/c he went to cut down the net and fans were underneath the basket.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

NCAA 2-4-4
When all three officials leave the visual confines of the playing area at the end of the game, the officials’ jurisdiction has ended and the score has been approved.

combined with...

NCAA 10-6-1f
Grasping either basket in an excessive, emphatic manner during the officials’ jurisdiction when the player is not, in the judgment of an official, trying to prevent an obvious injury to self or others.

I guess what I'm implying is that (for any rule set) perhaps there should be some distinction between what's covered under the phrase "official's jurisdiction".....pre-game, during the game, and post game.

Yes, you'd have to be a complete knucklehead to call it, but there's a knucklehead aspect of the rules that allow you to do it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

I guess what I'm implying is that (for any rule set) perhaps there should be some distinction between what's covered under the phrase "official's jurisdiction".....pre-game, during the game, and post game.

Yes, you'd have to be a complete knucklehead to call it, but there's a knucklehead aspect of the rules that allow you to do it.

It's defined already.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Adam

It's defined already.

Of course it is.
You're missing my point....which is to take out the part of the rule that would give some OOO the authority to call a T for a player grasping the rim AFTER the game is over.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Of course it is.
You're missing my point....which is to take out the part of the rule that would give some OOO the authority to call a T for a player grasping the rim AFTER the game is over.

You're right, I missed your point. But now that I caught it, I still disagree.

Because it keeps coaches from being able to get stupid and say whatever they want after the final horn. It happens occasionally anyway. I'd rather leave the rule and allow a few OOOs to screw up than take it out and allow every howler monkey a free pass after the final horn. The OOOs are going to screw up anyway.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Adam

You're right, I missed your point. But now that I caught it, I still disagree.

Because it keeps coaches from being able to get stupid and say whatever they want after the final horn.

That part needs to be there. I was only referring to the rim grasping part.

Bob made the best point in his post when he referenced a player doing it to taunt the opposing team after the horn sounded.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Of course it is.
You're missing my point....which is to take out the part of the rule that would give some OOO the authority to call a T for a player grasping the rim AFTER the game is over.

I still like the rule. I'm (in theory) more likely to call it if the hang is to taunt than I am if the hang is to celebrate.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I still like the rule. I'm (in theory) more likely to call it if the hang is to taunt than I am if the hang is to celebrate.

Agree, thats a point I had not considered.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

I'm confused.

Assuming some 'out of his mind' official somewhere makes this call......

If the game is over, by rule, how does this specific act even qualify as a post game T?

Because there might be another T, and then the FTs would be shot.

(Not suggesting that the call would be "correct for the game" as described in the OP)