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What a pressure cooker, They did a great job, getting together and getting it right. I'd like to think I'd do the same.....but who knows??
Terrific Can you imagine thinking it's over and the sudden steal and desparation heave....... could easily be deer in headlights. Nicely done. I love the huddle!!! Last edited by fullor30; Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:14am. 
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Wow. Talk about razor thin margin of error. That's a pretty impressive piece of officiating.
This video is a great example why ALL crew members should be aware of the end of a quarter and have an opinion, regardless of who is responsible (opposite table) for the last call. I always try to cover this exact scenario as part of my pre game when I'm a crew chief...."Whoever is opposite will be responsible for the last shot, but let's ALL have an opinion in case it's close and we have to come together, we want to get it right".
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The toughest of calls under the toughest of circumstances.
Yikes. Talk about earning your stripes!
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Video was on both the ABC and CBS news early this morning.
Only ABC talked about the officials......and NOT in a bad way! 
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 it all depends on who wrote it. If it was someone like me, we'll mention the original call...in a nice way If it's someone who doesn't know sports, they'll never realize there was a reversal.
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I know 2/3 of the three officials, they did a FANTASTIC job. A real excellent representation of the officiating in the New York City area. Those two officials also officiate in the CHSAA. I'm proud to have worked with them before.
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That is so tough to tell
I have watched the video relay several times, not using the superimposed clock, but using the clock and lights from the backboard behind the shooter. One time I think he doesn't get it off, the next time I think he does.
I think it was actually the lead official that got the officials together (and the third back from off the court), to discuss this. In this instance he likely had the best view because he was looking at the shooter and had the backboard, clock and LED all in his field of view, while the official who initially waved it off did not have all the aspects in his line of sight. Great work by the crew to get the call right after terrible plays by both teams let this shot happen. Had New Rochelle used a different play they likely get off a better shot then what went in. The Christian Lattner play has really worked once that I know of, when he did it. That was the first bad play of the sequence. Then when the Mt. Vernon player stole the ball he just throws it back up in the air. Had he secured it, the worst then that happens is he gets fouled with 2 seconds left. The best thing that happens is time runs out. Either way, he doesn't allow for that shot to even get taken.
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Please note that the rule is to go by the lights when they are present.
I think that the lights come on prior to the release. Perhaps JetMet or someone with good video editing software can capture the video and post a still photo. I tried to use freeze frame with around 30 seconds left in the clip. Tough to tell for sure.
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Mon Mar 04, 2013, 04:03pm
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Here are the frames from right before the LEDs come on, right as they are coming on, and then as they are fully on. Of course, the officials didn't have the benefit of video at all, so I think that real-time, counting this is the way to go!!   
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I had it in an NCAAW game this season (no monitor available). Thankfully it was just the end of the half and the shot didn't go in but we talked about it at halftime. We made the decision that whoever had the best look at the LEDs should be the one to blow his whistle when they came on. That would at least help the official handling the attempt.
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"Everyone has a purpose in life, even if it's only to serve as a bad example." "If Opportunity knocks and he's not home, Opportunity waits..." "Don't you have to be stupid somewhere else?" "Not until 4." "The NCAA created this mess, so let them live with it." (JRutledge) Last edited by JetMetFan; Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:12pm.
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