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Sharpshooternes Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:05pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 882703)
Except that the girls coaches had the choice and voted it down. (or is that a different thread...I can't recall if that discussion was in this one or not and I don't feel like figuring that out)

Interesting. Then I guess it is their problem then.

Adam Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:23pm

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 882706)
Interesting. Then I guess it is their problem then.

That was a different thread, regarding Montana I believe.

ODJ Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:14pm

Oregon is considering using 3-man crews for the 6A and 5A teams within three years.
Cut in pay possible to get it enacted.

Rich Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:52pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 882695)
Regarding the excuse of not enough money for three man crews, ever look around a game and notice how many staff bodies there are from schools who act as whatever?

I think it's safe to say they could cut back on the 8,9,10 + folks who I'm sure are making at least if not more than we are.

Elimanate one, and you have a three man crew.

Heresy! Eliminate one of those make work jobs for teachers?

They'd sooner eliminate us entirely.

fullor30 Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:31am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 882715)
Heresy! Eliminate one of those make work jobs for teachers?

They'd sooner eliminate us entirely.


Don't get me started on teacher, union, pay issues.

BillyMac Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:51am

I'm Not Complaining, But Don't Get Me Started ...
 
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 882742)
Don't get me started on teacher, union, pay issues.

... and don't get me to finish it (says a retired teacher, with three college degrees, who had to work second, and third, jobs for over twenty years to move into the middle class, purchase a moderately sized home (2000 square feet) with a thirty year mortgage, that I'm still paying off, and who is always paying off four year car loans on two moderately priced cars that the family keeps for eight years, and then don't get me started on doing "schoolwork" at home at night, on weekends, and during non-paid vacations, and non-paid holidays, yeah, that's right, at least here in Connecticut, teachers don't get paid for vacations, and holidays). Can you tell that I wasn't an English teacher?

Camron Rust Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:14pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 882742)
Don't get me started on teacher, union, pay issues.

Oh, but its for the kids! :eek:

26 Year Gap Sat Mar 02, 2013 05:59pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 882477)
A PSA ad for 3 man in your state.......3 man crew would have grabbed foul. Lead was probably screened, foul on trails backside

I give those two guys A+ for their composure, the younger, shorter guy didn't blink.

Coaches acted like schoolyard bullies. In hindsight, as noted could have been handled better, but I applaud these two.

Hey Wisconsin, wake up and smell the cheese.

Hindsight is always better, but if one tech had been issued to the bench, a simple "If one more bench tech is given, you know that you are ejected, right?" might have made a difference. But knuckleheads seem to surround themselves with even bigger knuckleheads, so it may only have helped in a dream world.

BktBallRef Sat Mar 02, 2013 06:55pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 882695)
Regarding the excuse of not enough money for three man crews, ever look around a game and notice how many staff bodies there are from schools who act as whatever?

I think it's safe to say they could cut back on the 8,9,10 + folks who I'm sure are making at least if not more than we are.

Elimanate one, and you have a three man crew.

Really? Really? Eliminate teaching positions in favor of getting 3 man crews?

That's ****ing ridiculous.

Adam Sat Mar 02, 2013 07:47pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 882766)
Really? Really? Eliminate teaching positions in favor of getting 3 man crews?

That's ****ing ridiculous.

I think he's talking about the extra money they're spending for the overtime for each of those teachers "working" at the game; not actually firing teachers but giving them a bit less overtime to sit in the corner of the gym during the basketball game.

26 Year Gap Sat Mar 02, 2013 08:18pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 882742)
Don't get me started on teacher, union, pay issues.

I changed careers and am now a teacher. Don't assume that every teacher is a union member. And, by the same token, don't assume that all teachers are tenured.

Rich Sat Mar 02, 2013 09:55pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 882767)
I think he's talking about the extra money they're spending for the overtime for each of those teachers "working" at the game; not actually firing teachers but giving them a bit less overtime to sit in the corner of the gym during the basketball game.

Exactly. Or maybe stop paying teachers keeping the book more than they pay the game officials.

Instead, they'll have 8 teachers there drawing pay and maybe an off duty cop or two but when it comes to a third official there's no money. Cry me a river.

fullor30 Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:42pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 882769)
I changed careers and am now a teacher. Don't assume that every teacher is a union member. And, by the same token, don't assume that all teachers are tenured.

Don't think I did.... On both. ???

fullor30 Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:46pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 882766)
Really? Really? Eliminate teaching positions in favor of getting 3 man crews?

That's ****ing ridiculous.


Take a deep breath and reread the post and follow the discussion

fullor30 Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:50pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 882774)
Exactly. Or maybe stop paying teachers keeping the book more than they pay the game officials.

Instead, they'll have 8 teachers there drawing pay and maybe an off duty cop or two but when it comes to a third official there's no money. Cry me a river.


Really, really? Eliminate teacher positions

Oh wait we're talking about extra pay for table, ticket taking, security work

Silly me


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