Sure I get the point: You want them to cut pay or eliminate the amount of people at events to pay for a third official. My point is that they obviously don't care about a third official enough to do that. If they are getting along fine with two officials, why would they change?

Have you done a study on this? In this area of the country, I can tell you that this is completely false.

These are the same guys complaining about not being able to find an administrator or supervisor when something goes wrong and they need game management. They want to have it both ways.

You're right, they don't care. But our point is simply this: the money is there if the priorities are. Don't tell us it's about the money.

False dichotomy.

However, the coaches seem to want it both ways. We hear all the time, "someone's going to get hurt out there" on plays where we miss a foul because we can't get the right position with two officials.

I know for a fact I had a missed elbow to the face in one of my games this year. I was lead, and the ball was in my primary. Just as the players moved and changed my angles, the player with the ball pivoted and clocked the defender. I was sure it happened, but I couldn't see it because I was straightlined. It was exactly the play that the T would have had a great view of in his PCA.

An adminstrator or supervisor does not fit under the term 'pork.

I'm talking about the hall guard sitting at a small desk playing words with friends for a few hours before she drives home for 50, 60 bucks.

As Adam said, it's priorities, the money is there, just don't say we'd like to but can't afford it.

Great analogy

These are "voluntary" positions. People request to do these things. The rate of pay is the going rate and what you signed up for to work as the scorekeeper, timer, etc. These positions give staff members an opportunity to earn a few extra bucks without the headache of having to take the additional work home with you.

Don't complain about something you volunteered to do. If it is about the money, find another job where you can sit, enjoy a free sporting event, and have no real authority or responsibility to supervise people.

So either you have asked that lady how much she is being paid, or you are just throwing numbers around to make your point. Which is it?

And again...you think that those people should just volunteer their time? Or should take a pay cut?

I cannot speak for him specifically, but I have been told or even asked what we get paid and the people in those positions often will tell you what they are being paid. It happens a lot in football because you have more time to talk to chain gangs during games and they often have a lot to say and pay often comes up. It might come up in basketball when there are multiple games, but one game not much talk is associated about pay.

Peace

I've asked.................several schools and various people

No, they should be paid.

My arguement is schools crying poor to have a varsity game properly officiated by adding an additional official for say roughly sixty a game
when in some cases, staffing could be reduced and everybody wins.

I don't begrudge someone for making extra money after school or on a weekend.

The school I work for is very small. We only do 2 officials per night unless it is a 3 game night then there are 3 officials with each one setting out one game. Money is the main reason. The only people at our game who are getting paid are the officials $110 + milage(for one official), the scorekeeper at $15 per game, the timer at $15 per game and the Gatekeeper at $15 per game. The game management is the pricipal/athletic director. He gets no extra money for this. However his salary for AD was doubled this year to just a little over $3000. However you will see many teachers there who are not being paid and yes they will help out when needed. We are currently not replacing 4 teaching positions for the following year to keep from operating in the red. My school would notice the extra money for the 3rd official.

Not necessarily ... it's just as likely that the L would be on the same side that the T is on.