DVBOA...Phantom travels

[Scooby]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1) If you make some small allowance, it's a jump stop and a legal pivot.

You may never legally pivot out of a 'jump stop'.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Scooby

You may never legally pivot out of a 'jump stop'.

It depends on your what your definition of a jump stop. There are two types of plays referred to as a jump stop.

If you gather (sorry, end the dribble for some of y'all) with a foot on the floor, jump off that foot, and land simultaneously on both feet, then no, you can't pivot. Same would apply if he gathered the ball with both feet in the air, landed on one foot, jumped off that foot and landed on both feet simultaneously.

The other type of jump stop is the one where a player gathers their dribble with both feet in the air and lands simultaneously...he may pivot with either foot in this case.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by APG

It depends on your what your definition of a jump stop. There are two types of plays referred to as a jump stop.

If you gather (sorry, end the dribble for some of y'all) with a foot on the floor, jump off that foot, and land simultaneously on both feet, then no, you can't pivot. Same would apply if he gathered the ball with both feet in the air, landed on one foot, jumped off that foot and landed on both feet simultaneously.

The other type of jump stop is the one where a player gathers their dribble with both feet in the air and lands simultaneously...he may pivot with either foot in this case.

and, the play in question was the latter.

[OKREF]

The Rivers play is a travel. In my opinion.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Scooby

You may never legally pivot out of a 'jump stop'.

Sure you can. Dribbling, end your dribble with both feet off the floor, land simultaneously land with both feet. Either can be the pivot.