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Old Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:09pm
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Last seconds of Georgia at Arkansas

I would like a clip of the last two possessions in regulation. There was a question about a travel on the last shot that Arkansas took on a made basket. I think it was not a travel, but very close.

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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:07am
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Video request: Arkansas game winner

Another travel that is "not called at this level?"
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:25am
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Another travel that is "not called at this level?"
No.

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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:30am
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I just saw the play. Player ended the dribble on the left side of the lane with back to the basket. Right foot was the pivot. Stepped to the middle of the lane with the left foot, then followed with the right returning to the floor almost all the way across the lane before the release of the shot.
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:33am
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I just saw the play. Player ended the dribble on the left side of the lane with back to the basket. Right foot was the pivot. Stepped to the middle of the lane with the left foot, then followed with the right almost all the way across the lane before the release of the shot.
It looked to me like the shot was off before his pivot foot hit the floor. But I would like to see it again. And it had nothing to do with level. The more I hear you say that, the more I think guys like you just call any thing that looks funny and says, "Well at the high school level that is a travel." I call the same travels at all levels I work. Some are very obvious, others are not. This was not obvious and if the pivot foot came down and the officials saw it that way, I think it would have been called.

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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:03am
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The more I hear you say that, the more I think guys like you just call any thing that looks funny and says, "Well at the high school level that is a travel."
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:04am
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Upon further review, the pivot actually returned to the floor and he jumped off that foot before the release. It is blocked from view at the end of the shot, but, if anything, the right foot came close to hitting the floor a second time.
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:58am
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I just watched - and again, hope to post before the day is out. His right foot did come down again. He wouldn't have been able to take off for the shot if it didn't. I'm not sold on a travel because of when he gathered the ball.

As for UGA's last shot at the buzzer, it appeared to be a blocking foul.
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Travel. It was almost two travels. Right foot was the first pivot coming around on the spin move then he pivoted on the lift bringing the right around to a new spot on the floor, umping off that right foot, then almost landing on the right foot again before shooting. The timing of the release relative to the right foot coming back down, however, is not really important because he had already traveled.

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Travel on first play, nothing on the second.
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Play one is bang bang as to whether the right foot came down before the ball was released...as such, I wouldn't called a travel and wouldn't expect it to be called a travel (and for the matter, I have left foot as the pivot foot as I have a gather with both feet on the floor).

Play two, wish we had another angle...if I HAD to guess, I'd say it was a blocking foul.
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Play one is bang bang as to whether the right foot came down before the ball was released...as such, I wouldn't called a travel and wouldn't expect it to be called a travel.
Irrelevant....he had already traveled long before that.
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Irrelevant....he had already traveled long before that.
I have the gather with both feet on the floor...followed by a step with the right foot...so it's relevant IMO.
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