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JRutledge Thu Feb 21, 2013 09:09pm

Last seconds of Georgia at Arkansas
 
I would like a clip of the last two possessions in regulation. There was a question about a travel on the last shot that Arkansas took on a made basket. I think it was not a travel, but very close.

Peace

just another ref Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:07am

Video request: Arkansas game winner
 
Another travel that is "not called at this level?"

JRutledge Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 881082)
Another travel that is "not called at this level?"

No.

Peace

just another ref Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:30am

I just saw the play. Player ended the dribble on the left side of the lane with back to the basket. Right foot was the pivot. Stepped to the middle of the lane with the left foot, then followed with the right returning to the floor almost all the way across the lane before the release of the shot.

JRutledge Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 881084)
I just saw the play. Player ended the dribble on the left side of the lane with back to the basket. Right foot was the pivot. Stepped to the middle of the lane with the left foot, then followed with the right almost all the way across the lane before the release of the shot.

It looked to me like the shot was off before his pivot foot hit the floor. But I would like to see it again. And it had nothing to do with level. The more I hear you say that, the more I think guys like you just call any thing that looks funny and says, "Well at the high school level that is a travel." I call the same travels at all levels I work. Some are very obvious, others are not. This was not obvious and if the pivot foot came down and the officials saw it that way, I think it would have been called.

Peace

Rich Fri Feb 22, 2013 01:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 881085)
The more I hear you say that, the more I think guys like you just call any thing that looks funny and says, "Well at the high school level that is a travel."

Preach on.

just another ref Fri Feb 22, 2013 01:04am

Upon further review, the pivot actually returned to the floor and he jumped off that foot before the release. It is blocked from view at the end of the shot, but, if anything, the right foot came close to hitting the floor a second time.

JetMetFan Fri Feb 22, 2013 07:58am

I just watched - and again, hope to post before the day is out. His right foot did come down again. He wouldn't have been able to take off for the shot if it didn't. I'm not sold on a travel because of when he gathered the ball.

As for UGA's last shot at the buzzer, it appeared to be a blocking foul.

APG Fri Feb 22, 2013 07:44pm

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/q0TQl07M6Vc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/zmZgthv74tQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

just another ref Fri Feb 22, 2013 07:51pm

I remain comfortable with my original position.

Camron Rust Fri Feb 22, 2013 08:02pm

Travel. It was almost two travels. Right foot was the first pivot coming around on the spin move then he pivoted on the lift bringing the right around to a new spot on the floor, umping off that right foot, then almost landing on the right foot again before shooting. The timing of the release relative to the right foot coming back down, however, is not really important because he had already traveled.

Good no call.

OKREF Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:41am

Travel on first play, nothing on the second.

APG Sat Feb 23, 2013 02:56am

Play one is bang bang as to whether the right foot came down before the ball was released...as such, I wouldn't called a travel and wouldn't expect it to be called a travel (and for the matter, I have left foot as the pivot foot as I have a gather with both feet on the floor).

Play two, wish we had another angle...if I HAD to guess, I'd say it was a blocking foul.

Camron Rust Sat Feb 23, 2013 03:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 881290)
Play one is bang bang as to whether the right foot came down before the ball was released...as such, I wouldn't called a travel and wouldn't expect it to be called a travel.

Irrelevant....he had already traveled long before that.

APG Sat Feb 23, 2013 03:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 881291)
Irrelevant....he had already traveled long before that.

I have the gather with both feet on the floor...followed by a step with the right foot...so it's relevant IMO.


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