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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:43pm
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This one is wacky! Over and back?!

This happened in our varsity game tonight. Team A is dribbling in their front court. B1 tips the ball away from A1, B1 dives to the floor for the ball, gathers it on his back and slides from his back court into his front court (the ball and his body are now in the front court, no part of him is actually touching his back court, but his legs are lifted in the air and his feet are breaking the imaginary plane into the backcourt). He throws the ball to his teammate who jumps both feet from the back court, catches the ball in the air and lands with one foot in the backcourt, one in the front court.

I called over and back. Nobody argued. But we are trying to figure out if he gained front court status even though his feet (part of the three points) were still hovering in the back court. Thanks for your help!
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:51pm
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But we are trying to figure out if he gained front court status even though his feet (part of the three points) were still hovering in the back court. Thanks for your help!
If B1 feet being over the division line plane does not matter, only where he is touching (or last touched) does. Sounds like he is in the frontcourt now, and B2 never gains frontcourt status before he touches the ball. Good call.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:08pm
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Three points are only relevant when a dribbler is dribbling from back court to front court. Your call was correct.

What did you conclude when you looked the rule up?
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:47am
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Wait, Let Me Figure It Out With My Slide Rule ...

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Three points are only relevant when a dribbler is dribbling from back court to front court.
How many points for a slider?
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:50am
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Depends if he established a pivot cheek or not.
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B1 dives to the floor for the ball, gathers it on his back and slides from his back court into his front court
Not a travel?
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:47pm
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Not a travel?
Why would it be?
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:39pm
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Why would it be?
Because his team was down by 2 with only a few seconds to go.
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2013, 03:00pm
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Because his team was down by 2 with only a few seconds to go.
Sorry I asked.
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:09pm
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I can't think of a situation where "the imaginary plane" of the division line would ever come into play. Is there even such a thing?
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:34pm
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I can't think of a situation where "the imaginary plane" of the division line would ever come into play. Is there even such a thing?
Two situations under NBA rules:

Timeout request from an airborne player that breaks the midcourt plane.

Also, the ball is considered in the frontcourt when the ball breaks the plane of the midcourt line when not in player control
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2013, 10:30pm
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I can't think of a situation where "the imaginary plane" of the division line would ever come into play. Is there even such a thing?
Airborne TO request in NCAA.
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:22pm
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Looks like you found a new signature!
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Looks like you found a new signature!
Not new, had it before.

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