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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:42am
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How can compression sleeves become "a problem?"
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:12am
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Question number 13 makes no sense to me
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:01am
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I don't understand why we'd go to a coin toss, but at least it would make the inane "who's the speaking captain" that so many ask at least somewhat meaningful.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:03am
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First set
1,2,4

New Rules
3,5,6 or 7,8,10,12

Mechanics
We do both of these already in our state. Long switches are bad. Also nothing worse than one guy going up with held ball and another going up with a closed fist. If you go up with open hand, much easier to handle.

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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:32am
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I don't understand why we'd go to a coin toss, but at least it would make the inane "who's the speaking captain" that so many ask at least somewhat meaningful.
GA actually did this - the coin toss - in the late '90s. If we didn't have a coin we did "fingers behind the back, one or two." It didn't last long. Maybe a season or two.

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Either allow an item or don't. Don't put in "medical" qualifications, color stipulations, length, texture, hardness...on and on and on. It is getting absurd and the Fed seems hell bent on adding even more stipulations to each piece of trendy components.
Agreed. It drives me nuts, especially because I work with NFHS and NCAA rules at the H.S. level, let alone college. Players in my BV games can wear long sleeves but in my GV games they need a medical waiver...it doesn't make sense.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:16am
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Question number 13 makes no sense to me
Too many people screaming "This isn't the NBA!" ?

I don't get it either.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:23am
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With regard to uniform and equipment "becoming a problem"...the only problem is with the way their rules are written and expecting officials to be fashion/uniform police. Either allow an item or don't. Don't put in "medical" qualifications, color stipulations, length, texture, hardness...on and on and on. It is getting absurd and the Fed seems hell bent on adding even more stipulations to each piece of trendy components.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:34am
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We (my regular partners and I) already go into a held ball situation with whistles only and only when we get eye contact and know neither of us have a foul or a violation -- only THEN do we go up with the thumbs. Only takes an extra second, but saves us from having differing signals.

I'd rather not have the stop clock signal mandated. Then we wouldn't know if we had a violation or a held ball. Our way works better, IMO. Of course, the NFHS feels that timers aren't capable of stopping the clock with whistles only, so that would never be the preferred mechanic.

We haven't long switched on a backcourt foul in...well, I can't remember how long.
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Too many people screaming "This isn't the NBA!" ?

I don't get it either.
For all we know, NFHS is thinking about getting rid of continuous motion...in the same vein of getting rid of the auto first for DPI's.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:37pm
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For all we know, NFHS is thinking about getting rid of continuous motion...in the same vein of getting rid of the auto first for DPI's.
There are already too many officials not awarding free throws because the player is "ON THE FLOOR." Fortunately, I don't work with many of them.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:09pm
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There are already too many officials not awarding free throws because the player is "ON THE FLOOR." Fortunately, I don't work with many of them.
I had to work with TWO of them a week ago Friday. That was a long game.
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For all we know, NFHS is thinking about getting rid of continuous motion...in the same vein of getting rid of the auto first for DPI's.
Don't give them any ideas.
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For all we know, NFHS is thinking about getting rid of continuous motion...in the same vein of getting rid of the auto first for DPI's.
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Don't give them any ideas.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:45pm
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NFHS Basketball Rules Questionnaire

Are These Changes Made Last Year Satisfactory?
1. The official scorer is required to wear a black-and-white vertically striped garment. Yes

Have You Seen In Your Area?
1. Leg compression sleeves/calf sleeves becoming a problem. Not yet…
2. The consistent enforcement of the arm compression sleeve. No
3. Intentional fouls properly called throughout the contest. No
4. Inconsistent compliance with the rule on headband/wristband colors. No
5. Headbands wider than 2 inches becoming a problem. No
6. More players being allowed to wear tights. No – HUGE Issue of players wearing wild/non-matching socks….I hate being the fashion police, but we are concerned about two different colors of thin headbands, yet a player can wear one purple sock and one green sock with his team’s RED UNIFORM???
7. Officials spending more time addressing concerns voiced by coaches. Yes…not sure why…More T’s as well….
8. Schools requesting permission for players to wear some type of headgear for protection because of a concussion. No
9. Improvement in the calls made on contact above the shoulders. No

About Rules For 2013-14 – Would You Favor?
1. Eliminating the jump ball to start the game and any overtime period. Yes (More fair – tall player’s team has an advantage – eliminates bad toss problem as well)
2. Determining initial possession of the ball with a coin toss during the pregame conference with captains and coaches. Yes
3. Legalizing the use of electronic devices in the bench area. Yes – too difficult to police
4. Strengthening the penalty for illegal elbow contact above the shoulders. No
5. Reducing the closely guarded situation from 6 feet to 3 feet. Yes – SIX FEET is NOT CLOSE!! Award Good defense, not just being in the same zip code!
6. Playing the game in two 18-minute halves. Yes
7. Playing the game in two 16-minute halves. Yes
8. Allowing a visible manufacturer's logo on the jersey. Yes
9. Changing "intentional foul" to "excessive foul" to better clarify. Use Both
10. Allowing state adoptions for size of coaching box (i.e., none, 6 feet, 14 feet, 28 feet). No – go to 28 feet for all
11. Giving a team the option of free throws or possession of the ball out of bounds. No
12. Permitting players in marked spaces along the free-throw lane to break the plane when the try is released Yes, PLEASE!!!
13. Continuous motion. ???

About Mechanics For 2013-14 - Officials Only - Would You Favor?
1. Using the "stop the clock for a violation" signal prior to giving the "jump ball" signal. No
2. Eliminating the long switch on a foul in the backcourt. Yes
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:44pm
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I don't think changing closely guarded to 3 feet is a good idea. At least in the games I have, there is a 5 second count that gets called maybe once every 3 games. Moving it to 3 feet is going to create a lot of extra potential for contact that NFHS doesn't want to encourage I think.
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