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Adam Sat Feb 09, 2013 01:03pm

Michigan Wisconsin
 
16:03 second half.
WI player falls and trips Michigan player. No call.

bainsey Sat Feb 09, 2013 01:41pm

Also: 31.9 seconds left in second half, lead calls a block.

Rich Sat Feb 09, 2013 01:43pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 878063)
Also: 31.9 seconds left in second half, lead calls a block.

I thought that one was easy.

OKREF Sat Feb 09, 2013 01:45pm

The last 5 seconds of regulation were unreal.

bainsey Sat Feb 09, 2013 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 878064)
I thought that one was easy.

I'm not convinced. I had to roll it back to confirm my thought, but the defender clearly had LGP just before the shooter left the floor.

And yes, that exchange of threes in the last few seconds were sick.

stiffler3492 Sat Feb 09, 2013 02:03pm

Who else caught them saying that Hardaway had five fouls, but was allowed to stay in the game? Now that would have been sticky if he had hit a game tying three at the end of OT.

JRutledge Sat Feb 09, 2013 02:08pm

In live speed I thought it was a block. Then when I saw the replay it was clearly a PC foul. Considering how many charges were called, that would have been an easy call for me. But then again I am convinced we penalize the defense way too much as a default when contact takes place.

Peace

Rich Sat Feb 09, 2013 02:19pm

I'll only say that I had one look while sitting at a Buffalo Wild Wings. Somebody post it so I can eat some crow.

The Badgers won despite themselves. Can't believe they ran an inbounds play in OT up 3 to a 40% FT shooter. Don't even know why he's on the floor.

And the Badgers are too good a program to ever storm the floor at home.

OKREF Sat Feb 09, 2013 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 878068)
Who else caught them saying that Hardaway had five fouls, but was allowed to stay in the game? Now that would have been sticky if he had hit a game tying three at the end of OT.

I heard that. Surely they had it wrong and he only had 4.

just another ref Sat Feb 09, 2013 04:25pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 878069)
In live speed I thought it was a block. Then when I saw the replay it was clearly a PC foul. Considering how many charges were called, that would have been an easy call for me.


I don't understand what you're saying here. You thought one thing live, then clearly saw the other thing on replay. So the easy call would have been which? And what does how many charges were called have to do with this play?

stiffler3492 Sat Feb 09, 2013 04:37pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 878073)
I heard that. Surely they had it wrong and he only had 4.

You're right, at least according to the Wisconsin play by play. The foul in overtime was his fourth. And ESPN's says the same thing. Good call.

APG Sat Feb 09, 2013 04:47pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 878080)
I don't understand what you're saying here. You thought one thing live, then clearly saw the other thing on replay. So the easy call would have been which? And what does how many charges were called have to do with this play?

When he first saw it, he thought it was an easy block...but upon further reconsideration, and seeing it again, it was an easy charge. And considering how many other charges had been called during the game (and I'm assuming there were similar plays during the game that were called charges), he easily would have had a charge.

just another ref Sat Feb 09, 2013 04:57pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 878087)
When he first saw it, he thought it was an easy block...but upon further reconsideration, and seeing it again, it was an easy charge. And considering how many other charges had been called during the game (and I'm assuming there were similar plays during the game that were called charges), he easily would have had a charge.


That's the part I don't like. Similar plays still fall on both sides of the line.

JRutledge Sat Feb 09, 2013 05:04pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 878090)
That's the part I don't like. Similar plays still fall on both sides of the line.

I did not say you call something just because you had similar plays called one way and BTW, they called charges on both teams all game long.

And for the record the angle they showed was not the best view. The end line view was much better look and clearly showed the defender was in LGP before the player jumped.

Peace

APG Sat Feb 09, 2013 05:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 878090)
That's the part I don't like. Similar plays still fall on both sides of the line.

Taking the philosophy too far can be an issue sure...as can any other philosophy, but I see no issue with it.


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