Michigan Wisconsin
 

16:03 second half.
WI player falls and trips Michigan player. No call.

Also: 31.9 seconds left in second half, lead calls a block.

I thought that one was easy.

The last 5 seconds of regulation were unreal.

I'm not convinced. I had to roll it back to confirm my thought, but the defender clearly had LGP just before the shooter left the floor.

And yes, that exchange of threes in the last few seconds were sick.

Who else caught them saying that Hardaway had five fouls, but was allowed to stay in the game? Now that would have been sticky if he had hit a game tying three at the end of OT.

In live speed I thought it was a block. Then when I saw the replay it was clearly a PC foul. Considering how many charges were called, that would have been an easy call for me. But then again I am convinced we penalize the defense way too much as a default when contact takes place.

Peace

I'll only say that I had one look while sitting at a Buffalo Wild Wings. Somebody post it so I can eat some crow.

The Badgers won despite themselves. Can't believe they ran an inbounds play in OT up 3 to a 40% FT shooter. Don't even know why he's on the floor.

And the Badgers are too good a program to ever storm the floor at home.

I heard that. Surely they had it wrong and he only had 4.

I don't understand what you're saying here. You thought one thing live, then clearly saw the other thing on replay. So the easy call would have been which? And what does how many charges were called have to do with this play?

You're right, at least according to the Wisconsin play by play. The foul in overtime was his fourth. And ESPN's says the same thing. Good call.

When he first saw it, he thought it was an easy block...but upon further reconsideration, and seeing it again, it was an easy charge. And considering how many other charges had been called during the game (and I'm assuming there were similar plays during the game that were called charges), he easily would have had a charge.

That's the part I don't like. Similar plays still fall on both sides of the line.

I did not say you call something just because you had similar plays called one way and BTW, they called charges on both teams all game long.

And for the record the angle they showed was not the best view. The end line view was much better look and clearly showed the defender was in LGP before the player jumped.

Peace

Taking the philosophy too far can be an issue sure...as can any other philosophy, but I see no issue with it.

You didn't, but some do. I'd just as soon not remember the last call at all. We can call charges all game long and the one that decides the game can still be a block. I'm just saying.

And I think JRut was just saying that the crew had a history of shipping a bunch earlier in the game so he wouldn't have been surprised to see he same thing on this play. Had nothing to do with calling it a charge because they called other charges earlier. I think.

Similar plays ABSOLUTELY should have similar calls.....Keep calling it a charge!

When it's a different play, call it a block.

Why is it so hard to understand that similar plays should have similar calls? That's called being consistent.

Every play is different. Judge each play according to the rules and philosophy. No need to think about previous calls at all.

I am not worried about what others do. I was the one that made the statement about the previous plays. I call plays individually, but consider how many charges were called, I would think a play that close would be called that way as well. Then again that official did not call any of the charges from what I could tell.

Peace

Here's the play...
 

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I also call plays individually, and I refuse to consider how many anything were previously called.:)

OK.

Peace

Here's the play...Part 2
 

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Looks like he got there before the shooter jumps, then moves a foot back.

Block

Block...and not really that close. Shooter was well into the air before the defender got his torso into the path.

I watched the game this AM and because I read this thread yesterday, I kept track of Hardaway's foul. He should have fouled out. I'm not sure why they didn't get it. He had two fouls in the first half. One in the 2nd and then two in overtime where Michigan was trying to stop the clock.

Regarding the block call with 31 seconds. From the side angle, I thought it could have been a charge but from the lead's angle, it definitely looks more like a block.

I thought another key call was on a out of bounds late in OT where the ball was knocked out of Michigan's hands and Steratore indicated it was off his knee. That was a real tough call against Michigan although there wasn't a good angle on the replay.

other than giving the ball to the wrong team, i've got a no call as well.

I see that, plus a hand in the shooter's gut.

Very close in real time, imho.

In real-time, I wouldn't oppose a PC, but I had a block.

Live, I had a foul on white. I wasn't really dissuaded by replay. You think they should have no-called it and given the ball to Michigan?

The ball went out of bounds off W1 head. Why wouldn't it be Michigan's ball?

Why do people put two different videos in the same thread? Sometimes makes it difficult to tell which play which comment is about.

I was trying to figure out how you could possible have a no call on the video I was thinking of (the block/charge), not remembering that this thread also had the trip/oob.

You're right. I completely missed that focussing on the blocking foul.

If folks want multiple plays in different threads we who supply the video can do that. We aim to please ;)

Until then, writing "play/clip 1" or "play/clip 2" when commenting on a play would help all who follow.

First play: I have a block on White then I have the ball going OOB off White.

0-2 for Steratore on that one.

2nd play: close either way.

That would work too, but that often doesn't happen.

I have a block on the block/charge with 31 seconds left.