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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 04:25pm
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In live speed I thought it was a block. Then when I saw the replay it was clearly a PC foul. Considering how many charges were called, that would have been an easy call for me.

I don't understand what you're saying here. You thought one thing live, then clearly saw the other thing on replay. So the easy call would have been which? And what does how many charges were called have to do with this play?
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 04:47pm
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I don't understand what you're saying here. You thought one thing live, then clearly saw the other thing on replay. So the easy call would have been which? And what does how many charges were called have to do with this play?
When he first saw it, he thought it was an easy block...but upon further reconsideration, and seeing it again, it was an easy charge. And considering how many other charges had been called during the game (and I'm assuming there were similar plays during the game that were called charges), he easily would have had a charge.
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 04:57pm
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When he first saw it, he thought it was an easy block...but upon further reconsideration, and seeing it again, it was an easy charge. And considering how many other charges had been called during the game (and I'm assuming there were similar plays during the game that were called charges), he easily would have had a charge.

That's the part I don't like. Similar plays still fall on both sides of the line.
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 05:04pm
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That's the part I don't like. Similar plays still fall on both sides of the line.
I did not say you call something just because you had similar plays called one way and BTW, they called charges on both teams all game long.

And for the record the angle they showed was not the best view. The end line view was much better look and clearly showed the defender was in LGP before the player jumped.

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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 05:11pm
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I did not say you call something just because you had similar plays called one way and BTW, they called charges on both teams all game long.
You didn't, but some do. I'd just as soon not remember the last call at all. We can call charges all game long and the one that decides the game can still be a block. I'm just saying.
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 11:51pm
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You didn't, but some do. I'd just as soon not remember the last call at all. We can call charges all game long and the one that decides the game can still be a block. I'm just saying.
I am not worried about what others do. I was the one that made the statement about the previous plays. I call plays individually, but consider how many charges were called, I would think a play that close would be called that way as well. Then again that official did not call any of the charges from what I could tell.

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Old Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:39am
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I call plays individually, but consider how many charges were called......
I also call plays individually, and I refuse to consider how many anything were previously called.
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 05:08pm
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That's the part I don't like. Similar plays still fall on both sides of the line.
Taking the philosophy too far can be an issue sure...as can any other philosophy, but I see no issue with it.
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 05:49pm
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Taking the philosophy too far can be an issue sure...as can any other philosophy, but I see no issue with it.
And I think JRut was just saying that the crew had a history of shipping a bunch earlier in the game so he wouldn't have been surprised to see he same thing on this play. Had nothing to do with calling it a charge because they called other charges earlier. I think.
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 10:30pm
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Similar plays ABSOLUTELY should have similar calls.....Keep calling it a charge!

When it's a different play, call it a block.

Why is it so hard to understand that similar plays should have similar calls? That's called being consistent.
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2013, 11:06pm
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Similar plays ABSOLUTELY should have similar calls.....Keep calling it a charge!

When it's a different play, call it a block.

Why is it so hard to understand that similar plays should have similar calls? That's called being consistent.
Every play is different. Judge each play according to the rules and philosophy. No need to think about previous calls at all.
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