3 man pay vs 2 man pay

[packersowner]

Originally Posted by yooperbballref

I hate to disagree with a fellow Packer owner, but I see it the other way around. By people doing refs JV and V games then that means there is less of an opportunity for a young ref who is not yet ready for V action to get games.

I guess it depends where you are working. Some places are in dire need of officials and ones that can work varsity games. Others have a plethora. However, you could look at it a different way too.

Some guys are working 5 - 6 nights week making $65/game, for a total of $325 - $390 per week. You essentially could do the same thing working 3 - 4 nights a week for $330 - $440. That would open up a couple of more nights for other guys, plus one might also say this keeps officials fresher since they are not working every night.

I am not arguing one way or the other - I think they are lots of valid reasons to have different crews, work more nights, schools wanting a varsity only crew, etc. I am just looking at it from the economics.

I personally, would rather work 2 nights a week and work a JV/V doubleheader than work 4 nights and miss all of the chatter on here

[WDEvol]

Rates set by the state in Alabama:

Varsity 3-man: $40.00/game per official
JV 3-man: $35.00/game per official
JV 2-man: $40.00/game per official
9th grade & under 3-man: $30.00/game per official
9th grade & under 2-man: $35.00/game per official

In 99% of cases, officials will have at least 2 games per assignment. Oftentimes a 3-man crew will call 3 games (JV, VG, VB). In that case, that's $115.00 per night per official, plus mileage.

In our area (not sure about other parts of the state), we go 3-man for every varsity game and 2-man for every junior high game. I've seen JV done both ways.

[BillyMac]

What is this three man crew that you speak of?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What is this three man crew that you speak of?

That is what many are saying about the group you belong to.

Peace

[Terrapins Fan]

Western Md and West Virginia, we do 3 man Varsity $65 each, travel for 3 schools that are 60 miles away. $15 for 1 official. No travel for the other 9 schools.

We rarely ever double up.

JV is $45 to $50 per official. 2 man.

Middle schools $30 per official, per game, usually 3 games assigned.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Everything for the most part is done here in two person with the exception of certain tournament finals:

Two Person-Regular Season
$72.00 per person

Two Person-Playoff (All rounds up to quarter-finals)
$81.00 per person

Three Person-Regular Season
$68.00 per person

Three Person-Playoffs (quarter-finals and onward)
$77.00

Section Championship-3 Person
$85.00

mileage is compensated for according to this scale
51 - 75 miles = $12.00
76 - 125 miles = $18.00
126 - 175 miles = $30.00
176 - 250 miles = $42.00
251 - 350 miles = $54.00
351 - 450 miles = $72.00

[JerryLundagard]

St.Louis Metro area

Three Person $66.50
Two Person $76.50

There are very few two person varsity games in the St. Louis area. Some of the out state schools do two person and the pay varies by the school.

All lower level is two person.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JerryLundagard

St.Louis Metro area

Three Person $66.50
Two Person $76.50

There are very few two person varsity games in the St. Louis area. Some of the out state schools do two person and the pay varies by the school.

All lower level is two person.

Any mileage and do you work only the Varsity game?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

351 - 450 miles = $72.00

Is the $72.00 supposed to cover an airline ticket?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What is this three man crew that you speak of?

Same here. We don't see 3-person at the H.S. level until the playoffs.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What is this three man crew that you speak of?

It is required that three-man crews must use the Alternating Possession rule.

MTD, Sr.

[egj13]

I think Montana has to be one of the lower paying states. We get $36 for JV (all 2 person) and $51 for V (all 3 person). One good thing here is that in my area we have a majority of Class C schools (AA, A, B and C are our classes) and they play both boys and girls in one night so we get $102 for the night plus travel if you are the driver. No complaints though.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by packersowner

I guess it depends where you are working. Some places are in dire need of officials and ones that can work varsity games. Others have a plethora. However, you could look at it a different way too.

Some guys are working 5 - 6 nights week making $65/game, for a total of $325 - $390 per week. You essentially could do the same thing working 3 - 4 nights a week for $330 - $440. That would open up a couple of more nights for other guys, plus one might also say this keeps officials fresher since they are not working every night.

I am not arguing one way or the other - I think they are lots of valid reasons to have different crews, work more nights, schools wanting a varsity only crew, etc. I am just looking at it from the economics.

I personally, would rather work 2 nights a week and work a JV/V doubleheader than work 4 nights and miss all of the chatter on here

It should be up to each official to decide how much he/she wants to work. It's why I despise the central assignor method. Under that system 17 years ago I would get 2-3 days a week and couldn't schedule anything else, even if I wanted to. Now, it's completely up to me and how far I'm willing to drive.

That said, I'm cutting back next season to 3 or so days a week by cutting out girls games. Another choice I never could've made elsewhere where you worked everything or nothing.

[scrounge]

we're pretty fortunate here in that most of the suburban schools use 3 man for sub-varsity, even freshmen (girls and boys), so there are PLENTY of opportunities to learn 3-man, even for first year officials. The public schools in the city and some smaller Christian schools use 2 man, as do the middle schools, but 3 man is prob more common. Pay doesn't change, it's the same per official regardless of crew size.