Free throws

[reffish]

Free throws. One player lines up on the elbow to shoot her FT's. She stands near enough that the defensive player on the top lane spot can reach out and touch her without leaving her lane space. Nothing happened in the game, but this got me thinking what if... the defensive player reached out and contacted the free thrower?
What if after the shot was released and still on its upward flight, the defensive player blocked the shot?
What if the free thrower leaned into the defensive player causing contact and then releasing the throw?

[bob jenkins]

Blocking the shot is GT (and a T).

Contacting the FT shooter would by rule be treated like any other contact, but I'd be strongly inclined to judge it to be an IP foul.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by reffish

Free throws. One player lines up on the elbow to shoot her FT's. She stands near enough that the defensive player on the top lane spot can reach out and touch her without leaving her lane space. Nothing happened in the game, but this got me thinking what if... the defensive player reached out and contacted the free thrower?
What if after the shot was released and still on its upward flight, the defensive player blocked the shot?
What if the free thrower leaned into the defensive player causing contact and then releasing the throw?

IIRC, there was once an interpretation issued that it was an intentional foul to foul a FT shooter before they released the shot (or something like that)....sort of like the thrower on a throwin.

As for blocking the shot...automatic goaltending (even on the way up) and a Technical foul to go with it.

As for the thrower causing contact, probably nothing...that would be dumb for them to do. It would only make their shot more difficult.

[Indianaref]

What Bob said. Goal Tending. Your last Q is just plain silly.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by reffish

Free throws. One player lines up on the elbow to shoot her FT's. She stands near enough that the defensive player on the top lane spot can reach out and touch her without leaving her lane space. Nothing happened in the game, but this got me thinking what if... the defensive player reached out and contacted the free thrower?
What if after the shot was released and still on its upward flight, the defensive player blocked the shot?

Goal Tending, technical foul, score the 1 point for the FT.

Originally Posted by reffish

What if the free thrower leaned into the defensive player causing contact and then releasing the throw?

Nothing.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Adam

Goal Tending, technical foul, score the 1 point for the FT.

Adam, I don't think that's right. Goaltending a try is a violation, with the penalty being an awarded score. Goaltending a FT is a TF, with the usual penalty (2 shots and the ball). The penalties don't mix.

See the penalty for 10-3-9.

[APG]

Originally Posted by maven

Adam, I don't think that's right. Goaltending a try is a violation, with the penalty being an awarded score. Goaltending a FT is a TF, with the usual penalty (2 shots and the ball). The penalties don't mix.

See the penalty for 10-3-9.

He's correct...you count the free throw...and it's a technical foul.

9.12 SITUATION A: On the first free throw by A1 in a bonus situation: B1 leaps above the lane and touches the ball but it falls in the basket anyway.

RULING: Delayed lane violation on B1; the ball is still live. The goaltending violation causes an immediate dead ball and an automatic point for A1; B1 is assessed a technical foul. A1 is awarded the bonus free throw. Following the free throws for the technical foul, it is A’s ball for a division line throw-in opposite the table. (4-22; 6-7-9; 10-3-9)

[just another ref]

Where does it say it's goaltending even if it's touched on the way up?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Where does it say it's goaltending even if it's touched on the way up?

4-goaltending.

The definitions are your friend.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

4-goaltending.

The definitions are your friend.

Absolutely right.

This is in the "never seen it, probably never will" category, so I had forgotten the rule, if I ever knew it. That, of course, is no excuse.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Absolutely right.

This is in the "never seen it, probably never will" category, so I had forgotten the rule, if I ever knew it. That, of course, is no excuse.

Happened in an SEC tournament game about 4 years ago.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Happened in an SEC tournament game about 4 years ago.

Blocked on the way up?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Happened in an SEC tournament game about 4 years ago.

Originally Posted by just another ref

Blocked on the way up?

GT on the way up

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

GT on the way up

Peace

That ball wasn't close to being on the way up.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

That ball wasn't close to being on the way up.

Nope. And Gillespie didn't know it was a technical foul, either.