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MD Longhorn Fri Feb 01, 2013 09:41am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 876230)
What the hell is rabbit ears anyway?

To me, "don't have rabbit ears" means not hunting for a reason to pick a fight. If you have to say, "what did you say???", you're better off not having rabbit ears and ignoring it.

That said, I don't think "rabbit ears" applies to the OP. Coach said something directly to the referee. Asking him, "did you just say what I think you said" is inappropriate if the comment was T-worthy, and I think in the OP, it was. If it's a T, it's a T. If he's been previously well behaved and for whatever reason you want to let it go - let it go. Don't go in between as described in the OP.

JRutledge Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:04am

All of that is subjective even when people say, "Don't go looking for trouble."

My point is if someone says something and you hear it, you can address it. That does not mean that you have to make a big deal about those things, I just think people use that term as a cop out to not deal with situations directly. Sometimes you have to risk trouble to accomplish things.

Peace

MD Longhorn Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:35am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 876318)
All of that is subjective even when people say, "Don't go looking for trouble."

My point is if someone says something and you hear it, you can address it. That does not mean that you have to make a big deal about those things, I just think people use that term as a cop out to not deal with situations directly. Sometimes you have to risk trouble to accomplish things.

Peace

I agree.

RookieDude Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:37am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 876244)
Obviously you do not understand...

Peace

Talking to myself...

..."just stay calm, Dan...stay level headed."

Thank-you for that, and thank-you for your insight...have a great game tonight and good luck in the postseason.

;)

rockyroad Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 876334)
Talking to myself...

..."just stay calm, Dan...stay level headed."

Thank-you for that, and thank-you for your insight...have a great game tonight and good luck in the postseason.

;)

ROFLMAO!

Welcome to the club, Dan...

And in response to the statement about the officials in Alaska - they actually were taped by an Assisstant Coach who illegally recorded their conversation in the locker room, so they were not really "overheard"... Things they said were entirely unprofessional and quite frankly offensive...

But none of that has anything to do with Big T's original post and question, so I will stop digressing now.

RookieDude Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:50pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 876367)
And in response to the statement about the officials in Alaska - they actually were taped by an Assisstant Coach who illegally recorded their conversation in the locker room, so they were not really "overheard"... Things they said were entirely unprofessional and quite frankly offensive...

Yep, thanks Rocky,

I do remember "us", here on this forum, discussing this years ago.

(I just didn't feel like getting into a long, drawn out, flame war...at least not this time);)

Raymond Fri Feb 01, 2013 01:16pm

All this doesn't change my sentiment that coaches don't get to loudly say whatever they want just because they were "talking to their team/bench/player/coach".

rockyroad Fri Feb 01, 2013 01:26pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 876374)
All this doesn't change my sentiment that coaches don't get to loudly say whatever they want just because they were "talking to their team/bench/player/coach".

Agreed...

JRutledge Fri Feb 01, 2013 01:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 876374)
All this doesn't change my sentiment that coaches don't get to loudly say whatever they want just because they were "talking to their team/bench/player/coach".

And that is the point. ;)

Peace

Adam Fri Feb 01, 2013 01:45pm

Lock it down! Everyone agrees.

JRutledge Fri Feb 01, 2013 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 876390)
Lock it down! Everyone agrees.

Not really, but it seems to matter to some then others.

Peace

#olderthanilook Fri Feb 01, 2013 02:13pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 876230)
What the hell is rabbit ears anyway?

So if I say something I am overheard, then I should expect someone to simply ignore their comments? There is a reason even in a locker room you are careful to what you say. If someone hears you say something, they will respond or take action. We really need to get rid of that way of thinking that anything can be said and it should be ignored if not said so everyone can hear it.

I know a coach would write us up if we were in the middle of the court and we were talking in a derogatory matter about a player or coach and then used the "rabbit" ears excuse as our defense for being unprofessional.

Peace

Exactly.

We are to act and be professional even when everyone else in the venue is not acting professional. That includes checking what comes out of our mouths in the form of words (includes eye rolling and sarcastic/baiting body language).

RookieDude Fri Feb 01, 2013 02:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 876374)
All this doesn't change my sentiment that coaches don't get to loudly say whatever they want just because they were "talking to their team/bench/player/coach".

...I believe that came from a different thread...but who doesn't AGREE with that statement?

RookieDude Fri Feb 01, 2013 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 876397)
Exactly.

We are to act and be professional even when everyone else in the venue is not acting professional. That includes checking what comes out of our mouths in the form of words (includes eye rolling and sarcastic/baiting body language).

Wow...I really do like this!!!

...can I borrow this from you?;)

JRutledge Fri Feb 01, 2013 02:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 876397)
Exactly.

We are to act and be professional even when everyone else in the venue is not acting professional. That includes checking what comes out of our mouths in the form of words (includes eye rolling and sarcastic/baiting body language).

They do not overlook the fact we might have said something. I have known officials to be accused of things they did not even say, but someone overheard part of the conversation and started making accusation. Oh well, what do we know?

Peace


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