LV at UConn rule misapplications

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Agreed, that is what I was thinking when I saw this play.

Play #2 I saw live and thought this was clearly missed. I just think a lot of officials simply give the benefit of the doubt for a touch by the defense and consider it a tip and never call the violation.

Peace

Agreed.

[OKREF]

Play 1. Travel on #2, nothing on the dunk.

Play 2. It looks to me that the official got straightlined and didn't get a good look at the ball hitting the leg.

[knockitoff]

Should lead be calling this? And mirroring?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Play 1. Travel on #2, nothing on the dunk.

Play 2. It looks to me that the official got straightlined and didn't get a good look at the ball hitting the leg.

I agree

Originally Posted by knockitoff

Should lead be calling this? And mirroring?

No. And no one should be using the "swirlie signal."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I agree



No. And no one should be using the "swirlie signal."

You tell Doug Shows he can't use the 'swirlie' signal.

[knockitoff]

When I saw them mirroring the BI, the swirlie's and the Lead w/ his "honk your horn!" motions, I started looking for a disco-crystal ball to drop in to the screen.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Beemer

Why would a person even call that BI or a T? He attempted a shot, missed, didn't hang on the rim, and his hand released the rim before the gained control of the ball. Making a mountain out of a mole-hill to me. You shouldn't call a travel either, because he did attempt a shot, and he is allowed to get his own rebound even if it doesn't hit the rim.

But he did hang on the rim - long enough to help himself swing toward the ball... and "before he gained control of the ball" is not the measure here - before he began his attempt to reach the ball would be more accurate (and the fact that he did NOT release the rim before attempting to get the ball is the reason for the clear violation).

I hope this video is used in training.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I don't see him as using the rim to swing. I see an attempted dunk, a released rim and a rebound. Given that he attempted a dunk, I would need to see some secondary action that was not part of the momentum of the dunk before I would feel that he had illegally contacted the rim and I just don't see that here.

In other words, I do think he let go and fell to the floor. You seem to think that he should have fell straight down but his momentum was towards the basket so unless he used the rim to check his momentum he's going to fall to the other side of the basket, like we see in the video.
It's nothing for me.

Watch it again. watch the 1st replay, and pause your screen the second the hands hit the rim. Decide for yourself where his natural landing point is... and then unpause. He swings a good solid foot, perhaps a foot and a half, toward the ball before landing.

[APG]

I've got nothing as far as BI

[ODog]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And no one should be using the "swirlie signal."

I don't do college, so it doesn't come up all that often, but this is an honest question: What is the approved signal for BI and/or goaltending?

I think if it ever came up in a HS game, I'd probably reflexively do the swirlie motion, but I don't want to be "that guy" if it's a fake signal.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Watch it again. watch the 1st replay, and pause your screen the second the hands hit the rim. Decide for yourself where his natural landing point is... and then unpause. He swings a good solid foot, perhaps a foot and a half, toward the ball before landing.

His natural landing point if the rim hadn't been there or his natural landing point given that he just tried to dunk the ball? I do not see him use the ring to adjust his flight in response to missing the dunk.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You tell Doug Shows he can't use the 'swirlie' signal.

I have no issue with the swirlie. Everybody knows what it means.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by ODog

I don't do college, so it doesn't come up all that often, but this is an honest question: What is the approved signal for BI and/or goaltending?

I think if it ever came up in a HS game, I'd probably reflexively do the swirlie motion, but I don't want to be "that guy" if it's a fake signal.

There isn't one. For me, after stopping the clock, point at either the offender or the basket, state "That's basket interference." and give the other team's direction/signal for points to be awarded.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by Rich

I have no issue with the swirlie. Everybody knows what it means.

Everybody knows what it means when an official says "on the floor" too. Doesn't make it right. I just want to know the right signal (if there is one).

[APG]

Originally Posted by ODog

Everybody knows what it means when an official says "on the floor" too. Doesn't make it right. I just want to know the right signal (if there is one).

The problem with saying "on the floor" is that it helps spread the belief that a player can't be in the act of shooting if they're on the floor (and as a side note, it's been my experience that those that do say "on the floor" are incorrectly not awarding free throws when they should be). The NBA signal for basket interference does no such thing.