Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 872397)

Agreed, that is what I was thinking when I saw this play.

Play #2 I saw live and thought this was clearly missed. I just think a lot of officials simply give the benefit of the doubt for a touch by the defense and consider it a tip and never call the violation.

Peace

Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 872417)

Play 1. Travel on #2, nothing on the dunk.

Play 2. It looks to me that the official got straightlined and didn't get a good look at the ball hitting the leg.

Originally Posted by knockitoff (Post 872423)

Should lead be calling this? And mirroring?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 872425)

I agree



No. And no one should be using the "swirlie signal."

Originally Posted by Beemer (Post 872347)

Why would a person even call that BI or a T? He attempted a shot, missed, didn't hang on the rim, and his hand released the rim before the gained control of the ball. Making a mountain out of a mole-hill to me. You shouldn't call a travel either, because he did attempt a shot, and he is allowed to get his own rebound even if it doesn't hit the rim.

Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 872406)

I don't see him as using the rim to swing. I see an attempted dunk, a released rim and a rebound. Given that he attempted a dunk, I would need to see some secondary action that was not part of the momentum of the dunk before I would feel that he had illegally contacted the rim and I just don't see that here.

In other words, I do think he let go and fell to the floor. You seem to think that he should have fell straight down but his momentum was towards the basket so unless he used the rim to check his momentum he's going to fall to the other side of the basket, like we see in the video.
It's nothing for me.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 872425)

And no one should be using the "swirlie signal."

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 872455)

Watch it again. watch the 1st replay, and pause your screen the second the hands hit the rim. Decide for yourself where his natural landing point is... and then unpause. He swings a good solid foot, perhaps a foot and a half, toward the ball before landing.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 872428)

You tell Doug Shows he can't use the 'swirlie' signal.

Originally Posted by ODog (Post 872468)

I don't do college, so it doesn't come up all that often, but this is an honest question: What is the approved signal for BI and/or goaltending?

I think if it ever came up in a HS game, I'd probably reflexively do the swirlie motion, but I don't want to be "that guy" if it's a fake signal.

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 872478)

I have no issue with the swirlie. Everybody knows what it means.

Originally Posted by ODog (Post 872481)

Everybody knows what it means when an official says "on the floor" too. Doesn't make it right. I just want to know the right signal (if there is one).