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bob jenkins Mon Jan 14, 2013 03:48pm

At one time it was the standard. Now it's less so (but still common).

BillyMac Mon Jan 14, 2013 03:48pm

When In Rome ...
 
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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 872146)
Why do some officials not want to say the colors that have more than one syllable?

Easy answer: Because some of us our told to only use one syllable colors, and some of us do what we're told. Check your local listings.

MD Longhorn Mon Jan 14, 2013 03:54pm

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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 872146)
I see where you are going with this. Why do some officials not want to say the colors that have more than one syllable? Is it just due to the ease of saying the word or is there some other reason? I come from a school which has purple as one of their colors so maybe that is why it doesn't bother me. Although we were called blue much more than purple.

One game we had orange vs Black. Partner absolutely refused to say orange, and kept calling them Red, no matter how much grief I gave him.

2 games later - same team, this time the opponent was red. I just looked at him and said, "OK, now what?"

Raymond Mon Jan 14, 2013 04:07pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 872154)
One game we had orange vs Black. Partner absolutely refused to say orange, and kept calling them Red, no matter how much grief I gave him.

2 games later - same team, this time the opponent was red. I just looked at him and said, "OK, now what?"

Orange becomes Gold. :D

I'm a one syllable guy. Me being color-blind also contributes to my preferences.

MD Longhorn Mon Jan 14, 2013 04:09pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 872163)
Orange becomes Gold. :D

I'm a one syllable guy. Me being color-blind also contributes to my preferences.

Ugh! It was almost a Texas orange. If he had insisted on not using "orange" I hope we'd have landed on brown instead.

Raymond Mon Jan 14, 2013 04:12pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 872167)
Ugh! It was almost a Texas orange. If he had insisted on not using "orange" I hope we'd have landed on brown instead.

I told you I was color-blind. :D

Adam Mon Jan 14, 2013 05:25pm

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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 872146)
I see where you are going with this. Why do some officials not want to say the colors that have more than one syllable? Is it just due to the ease of saying the word or is there some other reason? I come from a school which has purple as one of their colors so maybe that is why it doesn't bother me. Although we were called blue much more than purple.

I grew up wearing orange, but now it's red. Why? Because this isn't an area I care to stand out with.

Mregor Mon Jan 14, 2013 07:55pm

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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 872063)
Following a timeout in a 5th grade girls game. Girls were quite skilled by the way. Yellow has possession of the ball under the basekt at the far end line. Black coachs yell for them to be in 3-2 defense. Black sets up their defense in the back court but I believe they thought they were in the front court. I at first thought they were pressing as they had been the whole game. As I hand the ball to yellow for the throw in, black's coach yells for them to get back into 3-2. They turn and head the other way. Yellow then passes the ball in and shoots at the wrong basket. While the flight is in the air everyone is yelling "wrong basket." The only two who don't relize this are the shooter and the teammate who passed the ball in. The first shot is missed and the teammate who passed the ball in gets the "rebound" and sticks it back in. These two head down the floor now. As they ran away I whistled the play dead and instucted them it was still yellow's ball and instucted the table to give 2 pts to black.

Question: Should have I blown the play dead or should I have began a 5 second count on the yellow team since it was still their ball? What if the play had been higher level? I know that doesn't really matter according to the rules but in the spirt of the game perhaps it does?

You done good. It was 5th grade game. You prevented worse problems. Don't ask how I know.

Mregor

JetMetFan Tue Jan 15, 2013 05:18am

Are they smarter than a 5th grader?
 
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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 872063)
Yellow then passes the ball in and shoots at the wrong basket.

It isn't only 5th graders who do this. I had this in a BV game this year and yes, the team scored on itself.

OKREF Tue Jan 15, 2013 08:32am

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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 872146)
I see where you are going with this. Why do some officials not want to say the colors that have more than one syllable? Is it just due to the ease of saying the word or is there some other reason? I come from a school which has purple as one of their colors so maybe that is why it doesn't bother me. Although we were called blue much more than purple.

Purple is always blue.

BktBallRef Tue Jan 15, 2013 08:14pm

No white?
 
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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 872154)
One game we had orange vs Black. Partner absolutely refused to say orange, and kept calling them Red, no matter how much grief I gave him.

2 games later - same team, this time the opponent was red. I just looked at him and said, "OK, now what?"

Why two teams with dark colors?

CMHCoachNRef Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:46pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 872276)
Purple is always blue.

We have one assignor who insists on accurate color descriptions -- claiming that referees should be smart enough to use two syllable words. i can tell you there are a couple "purple" teams who don't appreciate being called "blue" especially when "blue" is the primary color of the opposing team's road uniform.

Rich Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:49am

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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 872396)
We have one assignor who insists on accurate color descriptions -- claiming that referees should be smart enough to use two syllable words. i can tell you there are a couple "purple" teams who don't appreciate being called "blue" especially when "blue" is the primary color of the opposing team's road uniform.

That's one assignor who needs to get a life. And I couldn't possibly care what the teams want.

To me, orange is a one syllable word and I use it, but it will be a cold day in hell before I use the word purple on a basketball court.

BillyMac Wed Jan 16, 2013 07:24am

I Always Pack A Color Wheel In My Bag ...
 
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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 872396)
We have one assignor who insists on accurate color descriptions.

So he probably loves it when you say, "Gamboge. Five. Push".

Eastshire Wed Jan 16, 2013 07:53am

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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 872146)
I see where you are going with this. Why do some officials not want to say the colors that have more than one syllable? Is it just due to the ease of saying the word or is there some other reason? I come from a school which has purple as one of their colors so maybe that is why it doesn't bother me. Although we were called blue much more than purple.

I believe the main reason is vocal projection. One syllable words are easier to say loudly than multiple syllable words, particularly multiple syllable words with hard stops (like purple).

My schools colors were purple and gold, but you're never going to hear me say purple when I'm refereeing. I will say orange but I only use one syllable.

It always amuses me when the players come to me with concern on their faces that I apparently can't tell what color they're wearing.


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