T or no T?

[ODog]

I think it'd be all right if you said, "It's a point of emphasis this year." So that way, when he goes *****ing to one of his friends on your board and quotes you on that -- as long as your fellow member isn't a complete hack/apologist -- he can say, "Well he IS right about that, Leroy."

I ALWAYS mention the contact-above-the-shoulder thing during the captains' meeting. Doesn't do much for the coaches or most of the players, but that's all you've got ... I think.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ODog

I ALWAYS mention the contact-above-the-shoulder thing during the captains' meeting. Doesn't do much for the coaches or most of the players, but that's all you've got ... I think.

I think the more you mention stuff, the more they want you to call something that might not be there. Why bring that to their attention. I would only say something that your area (and that could be the case here) is making sure everyone is enforcing and mostly administrative issues that have nothing to do with actual play calling. It would be like saying, "We are going to address handchecking" and the first act that looks like handchecking you are going to be seen as not doing what you suggested.

Not saying I am right, I just think you open yourself up the more you talk in that meeting.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think the more you mention stuff, the more they want you to call something that might not be there. Why bring that to their attention. I would only say something that your area (and that could be the case here) is making sure everyone is enforcing and mostly administrative issues that have nothing to do with actual play calling. It would be like saying, "We are going to address handchecking" and the first act that looks like handchecking you are going to be seen as not doing what you suggested.

Not saying I am right, I just think you open yourself up the more you talk in that meeting.

Peace

Agreed.

I'm not a fan of a coach making the "you've gotta help him" comment to one official. That's a personal dig, and I have no problem with the T. He doesn't need to vent when the call is that clear and correct.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Agreed.

I'm not a fan of a coach making the "you've gotta help him" comment to one official. That's a personal dig, and I have no problem with the T. He doesn't need to vent when the call is that clear and correct.

Yup.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

Agreed.

I'm not a fan of a coach making the "you've gotta help him" comment to one official. That's a personal dig, and I have no problem with the T. He doesn't need to vent when the call is that clear and correct.

I have no problem with that T either, especially within the context of what had been said earlier. That particular comment is a pet peeve of mine.

[DRJ1960]

Good "T"

[just another ref]

I probably don't have a T for these words, unless, as others have said, they are accompanied by excessive gestures or whatever.

I don't have a problem with "You gotta help him out......" unless my partner actually comes to help.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I probably don't have a T for these words, unless, as others have said, they are accompanied by excessive gestures or whatever.

I don't have a problem with "You gotta help him out......" unless my partner actually comes to help.

If I T'd someone up for that, then I would triple or quadruple my totals of Ts. I just tell coaches, "I do not have to do a darn thing." Usually stops that mess.

Peace

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm not a fan of a coach making the "you've gotta help him" comment to one official. That's a personal dig, and I have no problem with the T. He doesn't need to vent when the call is that clear and correct.

+1

If this were the first time the coach crossed the line, I'd probably give a "not again," but after repeated issues, starting with pre-game, I'd cite ABS.

FWIW, there's still some ignorance about the elbow above the shoulders POE. There was such a foul in tonight's UMaine/UAlbany game, and the officials went to review the video of the foul. When the replay aired, the color commentator boldly stated, "That's not more than a foul. He (the defender) has to give him SOME room, doesn't he?" (Argh!) Very quickly, you could hear someone telling the announcing crew F1 is required for such fouls.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

+1

If this were the first time the coach crossed the line, I'd probably give a "not again," but after repeated issues, starting with pre-game, I'd cite ABS.

FWIW, there's still some ignorance about the elbow above the shoulders POE. There was such a foul in tonight's UMaine/UAlbany game, and the officials went to review the video of the foul. When the replay aired, the color commentator boldly stated, "That's not more than a foul. He (the defender) has to give him SOME room, doesn't he?" (Argh!) Very quickly, you could hear someone telling the announcing crew F1 is required for such fouls.

Yes there is, but college actually changed their rules to reflect what the NF wants to imply should be called. The NF never changed their rule they gave an interpretation.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by ODog

I ALWAYS mention the contact-above-the-shoulder thing during the captains' meeting. Doesn't do much for the coaches or most of the players, but that's all you've got ... I think.

Why?

[Rich]

When the coach asked if you were a varsity official, I would've said "this isn't a varsity game."

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by Rich

When the coach asked if you were a varsity official, I would've said "this isn't a varsity game."

What I WANTED to say was "Are you a varsity coach?" The swelling is just now starting to go down from where I bit my lip...

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by Rich

When the coach asked if you were a varsity official, I would've said "this isn't a varsity game."

How about, "Are you a varsity coach?"

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Why?

So if it happens and is called the way the POE suggests, fewer people can be beside themselves.