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Rich Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:04pm

When the coach asked if you were a varsity official, I would've said "this isn't a varsity game."

Rich Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 871874)
Agreed.

I'm not a fan of a coach making the "you've gotta help him" comment to one official. That's a personal dig, and I have no problem with the T. He doesn't need to vent when the call is that clear and correct.

Yup.

bob jenkins Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:12pm

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Originally Posted by The Rooster (Post 871853)
Coach to my partner (before I can get out of there and administer): "You gotta help him out here."

Me: "Okay -- good call Rooster."

(oh yeah -- no T, based just on the comment and not on any animation)

Rooster Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:19pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 871876)
When the coach asked if you were a varsity official, I would've said "this isn't a varsity game."

What I WANTED to say was "Are you a varsity coach?" The swelling is just now starting to go down from where I bit my lip... :D

ODog Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:20pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 871875)
Why?

So if it happens and is called the way the POE suggests, fewer people can be beside themselves.

Raymond Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:29pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 871874)
Agreed.

I'm not a fan of a coach making the "you've gotta help him" comment to one official. That's a personal dig, and I have no problem with the T. He doesn't need to vent when the call is that clear and correct.

I have no problem with that T either, especially within the context of what had been said earlier. That particular comment is a pet peeve of mine.

DRJ1960 Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:01pm

Good "T"

just another ref Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:08pm

I probably don't have a T for these words, unless, as others have said, they are accompanied by excessive gestures or whatever.

I don't have a problem with "You gotta help him out......" unless my partner actually comes to help.:eek:

JRutledge Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:39pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 871893)
I probably don't have a T for these words, unless, as others have said, they are accompanied by excessive gestures or whatever.

I don't have a problem with "You gotta help him out......" unless my partner actually comes to help.:eek:

If I T'd someone up for that, then I would triple or quadruple my totals of Ts. I just tell coaches, "I do not have to do a darn thing." Usually stops that mess. ;)

Peace

Mregor Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:08am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 871876)
When the coach asked if you were a varsity official, I would've said "this isn't a varsity game."

How about, "Are you a varsity coach?" :D

bainsey Sun Jan 13, 2013 02:58am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 871874)
I'm not a fan of a coach making the "you've gotta help him" comment to one official. That's a personal dig, and I have no problem with the T. He doesn't need to vent when the call is that clear and correct.

+1

If this were the first time the coach crossed the line, I'd probably give a "not again," but after repeated issues, starting with pre-game, I'd cite ABS.

FWIW, there's still some ignorance about the elbow above the shoulders POE. There was such a foul in tonight's UMaine/UAlbany game, and the officials went to review the video of the foul. When the replay aired, the color commentator boldly stated, "That's not more than a foul. He (the defender) has to give him SOME room, doesn't he?" (Argh!) Very quickly, you could hear someone telling the announcing crew F1 is required for such fouls.

JRutledge Sun Jan 13, 2013 03:01am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 871916)
+1

If this were the first time the coach crossed the line, I'd probably give a "not again," but after repeated issues, starting with pre-game, I'd cite ABS.

FWIW, there's still some ignorance about the elbow above the shoulders POE. There was such a foul in tonight's UMaine/UAlbany game, and the officials went to review the video of the foul. When the replay aired, the color commentator boldly stated, "That's not more than a foul. He (the defender) has to give him SOME room, doesn't he?" (Argh!) Very quickly, you could hear someone telling the announcing crew F1 is required for such fouls.

Yes there is, but college actually changed their rules to reflect what the NF wants to imply should be called. The NF never changed their rule they gave an interpretation.

Peace


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