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bob jenkins Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:26am
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 871615)
I agree that we shouldn't let this become a timeout, but I do one thing: I ask the coach if he/she has a sub or if he/she needs time. If they say they have someone and the sub goes to the table, we play. If they need/want time, I go to the table and have them start the time. IME the coach often has a sub and we can just continue with the game.
And, 50% of the time, the sub is already at the table, so I just verify with the coach or sub that the sub is coming in for #xx.

BillyMac Fri Jan 11, 2013 03:19pm
Please ...
 
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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 871599)
Do it!
Sorry, I need permission from a moderator.

Rich Fri Jan 11, 2013 03:32pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 871701)
Sorry, I need permission from a moderator.
You know it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Sometimes.

BillyMac Fri Jan 11, 2013 03:50pm
Bad Timing ...
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 871701)
Sorry, I need permission from a moderator.
I do not want to be suspended from the Forum right in the middle of basketball season, so I'm takng no chances.

Upward ref Fri Jan 11, 2013 04:03pm
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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 871548)
Not required, but, somewhere along the line, notify your partners..
Jurassic ref has passed away ? It's been a while since I've been on the forum,
I'll miss his straight shooting answers if so. :(

Raymond Fri Jan 11, 2013 04:03pm
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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 871548)
Not required, but, somewhere along the line, notify your partners..
Yep...I usually do that before formally informing the coach so that my partners are aware of the upcoming delay. If I'm the new C (high school) with free throws upcoming I'll step near the free throw circle until trail is ready.

Welpe Fri Jan 11, 2013 05:51pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 871701)
Sorry, I need permission from a moderator.
Ok Billy knock yourself out. I'm feeling charitable today after tossing a coach last night.

Welpe Fri Jan 11, 2013 06:02pm
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Originally Posted by Upward ref (Post 871723)
Jurassic ref has passed away ? It's been a while since I've been on the forum,
I'll miss his straight shooting answers if so. :(
Sadly he did. :( mick did too if you hadn't heard.

billyu2 Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:45am
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 871615)
I agree that we shouldn't let this become a timeout, but I do one thing: I ask the coach if he/she has a sub or if he/she needs time. If they say they have someone and the sub goes to the table, we play. If they need/want time, I go to the table and have them start the time. IME the coach often has a sub and we can just continue with the game.
Nice idea; but if the coached is pissed or has been a problem during the game I'm not initiating ANY conversation that might give him/her an opportunity to say something derogatory.

Rich Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:46am
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Originally Posted by billyu2 (Post 871789)
Nice idea; but if the coached is pissed or has been a problem during the game I'm not initiating ANY conversation that might give him/her an opportunity to say something derogatory.
I think that goes without saying. But many fifth foul scenarios are not contentious.

billyu2 Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:53am
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 871791)
I think that goes without saying. But many fifth foul scenarios are not contentious.
I agree. But for newer officials, it may be wise not to make this your routine procedure. Use some caution.

BillyMac Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:05am
Stupid Sarcastic Coach ...
 
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 871791)
Many fifth foul scenarios are not contentious.
You're probably right, but my most recent head coach ejection, a few years ago, was in a "fifth foul" scenario.

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...tml#post686961

(Note: It may be worth your while to read through the entire attached link. There's some classic Jurassic Referee stuff in the link, and one of the few times that I was on Jurassic Referee's good side. Poor JugglingReferee was not on Jurassic Referee's good side in this thread, but he did a nice job stating his case against a relentless debate opponent. I really miss Jurassic Referee, but he lives on, giving good advice, in cyberspace.)

BktBallRef Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:10am
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 871447)
4. And when the replacement for A1 checks in, A1's sub comes in along with any other subs that have reported.
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 871455)
Good one!

No need to wait until before the last free throw to bring in others!
Nor is there any need to wait until A6 reports. If subs are waiting at the table, they can enter before A6 reports.

Sharpshooternes Sat Jan 12, 2013 05:02pm
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 871615)
I agree that we shouldn't let this become a timeout, but I do one thing: I ask the coach if he/she has a sub or if he/she needs time. If they say they have someone and the sub goes to the table, we play. If they need/want time, I go to the table and have them start the time. IME the coach often has a sub and we can just continue with the game.
yeah until they are mad at you for fouling out their player. Then they take as much time as they can get away with before they get a tech. Just follow the procedure outlined and that will save you any headaches with coaches.

Adam Sat Jan 12, 2013 05:09pm
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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 871831)
yeah until they are made at you for fouling out their player. Then they take as much time as they can get away with before they get a tech. Just follow the procedure outlined and that will save you any headaches with coaches.
Had that last summer. I think he was surprised at what happened at twenty seconds.


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