Game tonight sucked

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by seohio

I am taking the advice from some on this board and have written down what bothered me most tonight....what mistakes I made and am going to study on them and not make those mistakes next game....life goes on.

Also, try to think of at least one positive thing you got out of the game... surely, there is one.

In the journal I'm keeping, I try to record things I thought I did well in addition to the things I feel I should work on or be mindful of for the next game.

I'm sure at some point I'll have the game from h-e-double toothpicks and wonder what I got myself into. But just remember the next game is always a chance to start fresh.

[Multiple Sports]

Just a thought.......

Not sure you should be doing games with your son.....

I assign another sport and have two sets of father / sons....

Kept them apart their first two years, to your son you aren't his partner, you
are his father. Trust me, that is not fair to him. Likewise you are out there
trying to protect your son not your partner....Just one man's opinion.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Just a thought.......

Not sure you should be doing games with your son.....

Agreed, not with them both breaking in at the same time. I have called some games with my son, (jr. high and below) but I was officiating before he was born.

[Altor]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Just a thought.......

Not sure you should be doing games with your son.....

I assign another sport and have two sets of father / sons....

Kept them apart their first two years, to your son you aren't his partner, you
are his father. Trust me, that is not fair to him. Likewise you are out there
trying to protect your son not your partner....Just one man's opinion.

I officiate a lot of contests with my father each year. I think the experiences have brought us closer together and I consider him one of my best partners. We are simply on the same page for so many things. Of course, we weren't trying to learn the trade together. He already had 30+ years of officiating under his belt.

That said, I agree with the sentiment above. Develop your skills separately for a couple years. I don't think it would hurt to attend each other's games and offer praise/criticism afterwards. But, there's a certain amount of distance you should keep for the first couple years, especially DURING the contests. Let each of you learn from your own mistakes on the court, then post-game (preferably after a post-game with your partners) what went right and what went wrong.

[icallfouls]

I think I would say that the other way around. Father and son thought it would be fun to officiate. As both get more experience they tend to work together less as both officials start to develop their own way of doing things.

Its no different than the father / son relationship. They participate together, develop, then find others (typically in their age range) to learn from, but in the end they still talk and offer support to each other.

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Just a thought.......

Not sure you should be doing games with your son.....

I assign another sport and have two sets of father / sons....

Kept them apart their first two years, to your son you aren't his partner, you
are his father. Trust me, that is not fair to him. Likewise you are out there
trying to protect your son not your partner....Just one man's opinion.

[ballgame99]

Been there man!! The worst thing is kicking yourself after because you feel like you let it get out of control. In reality, if you would have blown your whistle more it may have cleaned up a bit, but it still would have remained ugly. But don't let that stop you from calling fouls. It is much easier to live with yourself if you can say, hey, at least I tried. Just keep improving, as we all know this is not an easy job. Oh, and its been said at this point, but don't let that coach get over on you. How can you expect the kids to respect you if you allow their coach to disrespect you like that?

[SE Minnestoa Re]

I have been officiating for over 30 years. I have worked many games with my son but we weren't starting out together. It is always fun. He has moved away but we always get together a couple of times a year to work a varsity game somewhere.

Concerning rough play, you need to take control of the game. Last Friday the teams played extremely well and we called only 12 fouls until the last two minutes when one team fouled often while behind late in the game.

Monday night, same officials, called 50 fouls. The difference was that Monday the teams wanted to reach, not move their feet on defense and push a lot. We call what we see.

No complaints either night. The coaches all knew what was going on.

Keep your chin up--it will get better. Promise.

[seohio]

I thank you for your replys and am taking it all as great advise.
In Ohio if the coach is ejected from the game they have to leave the gym and cannot be a spectator at all....they are not allowed to coach the next 2 games but are allowed to spectate from the bleachers...they cannot be involved in coaching in any way....they must pay 100 bucks to get reinstated and do a online management class..I guess a technical should shut a coach up pretty quick.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by seohio

I thank you for your replys and am taking it all as great advise.
In Ohio if the coach is ejected from the game they have to leave the gym and cannot be a spectator at all....they are not allowed to coach the next 2 games but are allowed to spectate from the bleachers...they cannot be involved in coaching in any way....they must pay 100 bucks to get reinstated and do a online management class..I guess a technical should shut a coach up pretty quick.

Here's a piece of advice. Don't worry about subsequent penalties. They should have nothing to do with how you handle a situation on the court.