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you know how volleyball officials have to wear those shirts that say "certified volleyball official" on them? well maybe the fed/ncaa should come up with a standard scorekeepers test-those of us who have more than 5 years of service at our schools should be exempted and get the patch automatically.it would say in my state "certified CIF-SS scorekeeper."
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I have 7 years of full time varsity experience under my belt.but the idea is for conferences/leagues to get all their scorers together and make sure everyone is on the same page in terms of what we record and how we handle a game.any student scorer should be mandated to pass the test as well as attend the meeting.most of the adults working as scorers in our league have 2 or 3 years experience.
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Cold Turkey ...
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On the other hand, the main problem with the good experienced table personnel is that they take too much upon themselves. Many timers never watch for the official to chop the clock, and there is nothing worse than reporting a foul to a scorer who never looks up, but is already writing in the book. I warn some on occasion: "Don't assume anything. The call may not have been that "obvious" thing that you saw. If there is a mistake, let it be mine, not yours." |
I agree with you about the scorer already recording a foul before it is reported being very annoying.
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I don't believe Mac is just out there to blow his whistle. From previous posts, he seems to know what he's talking about as well as anyone else here. You are railing on him for not doing something that the rulebook doesn't tell him to do. I think you're wrong. |
Or Mob Wives ...
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East Oshkosh Foul, Number 15, Smith's Second, Team's Fourth ...
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I'll save you the trouble, I didn't post any such thing nor have I advocated such. I said, I keep up with the timeouts beginning in the fourth quarter. By doing so, hopefully I can avoid a situation like this. In my opinion, ignoring what two 16 y/o's are doing at the scorer's table because "it keeps me out of trouble" is not the best way to manage a game. You're certainly welcome to disagree with my opinion. And if I offended Billy Mac, I apologize. Being tactful has never been my strong suit. |
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In fact, I can't remember the last time anyone but an adult has done the Varsity books around these parts. Having said that...an inexperienced adult, running the books, can really get you in trouble. (If you are not actively "managing" them...I'm with you there BBR) We had one of those inexperienced adults the other night.... It was her FIRST time EVER keeping score. And this was for a Varsity game! The clock operator was also inexperienced. Actually, this was a nightmare table crew. Fouls were recorded wrong on the board...Score was recorded wrong on the board...TO's were not kept up to date on board...Disqualified player showed 4 fouls on board (player talked his coach into putting him back in the game because the board showed he only had 4 fouls):eek: ...that is a whole different story...:cool: MORAL OF THIS STORY: Quiz the table crew, when you are signing the books, just to get a feel for how knowledgeable they are. i.e. * When do you start the shot clock after the made basket? (Some start it when it is at the throw-in teams disposal...some start after ball goes through hoop...some start when ball touches player on court) * When do you start the play clock? (on our CHOP) * When do you activate the first horn after TO's or a disqualification? (Most get this, 15 seconds before the end of TO,...but, many do not know to activate the horn 5 seconds into a disqualification) [I usually count to 5 after I tell the clock operator to start the clock for a disqualification...then instruct to activate 1st horn, if they look confused] I stress to them that for TO's and disq. activate horn with 15 seconds left...no matter what length TO or disq. is...here is where you have to let them know 20 seconds for disq. replacement. * I even ask the book to let us know when we are in the bonus. (I stress to them we don't want a correctable error situation) * I ask them to give us a nice visible 5 for a disqualification...and a horn. * I will ask the table crew when it is too late for a substitute to check in during a TO.(after the 1st horn...a player can check in after 1st horn...just won't get in right away) I like this time with the table crew...I become familiar with the table crew and their knowledge...and best of all... it gives me something to do during the "worst 15 minutes of basketball";) |
Nothing Wrong With Sticking To Your Guns ...
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