I had a foul call the other night as Center opposite table on an OOB call the Lead was giving to the defense. My whistle caught everyone by surprise. Got a video of the game a couple days later with camera on my side of court and I absolutely got the call right.

Sometimes our angle is only one that can see the play clearly.

Nor do I. But if I make it, it's because I'm 110% sure of it.

+1

One thing that isn't going be tolerated around here are personal attacks.

So have a nice Christmas and come back in a few days and we'll see if you can act nicely around here.

Not saying this will get called but you usually don't deem there to be control until they've held it for 3-4 seconds.

Agree...just referencing the many travel posts in the past that were not so close but he still used the same argument. He just doesn't consider it control until they have held the ball for a long time.

Not sure what seconds have to do with my point, I just think it is like football you have to bring the ball into your body to really demonstrate some control or something similar while moving and catching the ball. I believe I showed a video on this site where a player touched the ball with one foot on the floor but most here did not consider control until that foot left the floor. Again that is why it is called judgment and we all do not share the very same level or have the same philosophies to cover these plays.

Peace

I see control when the ball hits the player in his two hands and sticks there, which is what happened in this video, followed by his landing with a 1,2,3 count. The travel actually had nothing to do with the release of the dribble.

Unfortunately, this isn't football and nowhere have I ever heard such an interpretation except from you.

I did not say what it was an interpretation. Don't read too much into a person's take on a play. Just telling you how I determine when someone clearly has possession. If you think I am the only one that tires to find things to make a judgement, then you need to talk to more officials. And I believe I showed a video on this site where people basically drew a similar conclusion.

Pivot foot discussion

Peace

If you think it happened, it probably didn't, so hold your whistle. Unfortunately, we don't have the advantage of replay....However. even in slow motion, I don't see a need to call this one, since I don't think it happened. Just me. Others may differ.

that is a close one. real time is very hard to call. that close, any doubt goes to the player. not calling that one

If I think it happened, it probably did, but probably isn't good enough. Without a high degree of certainty I will hold the whistle. A common saying is that it is better to miss one than call one incorrectly. I agree. But there is a line to be drawn somewhere. I'd rather call one incorrectly than miss ten.

I would rather miss plays like this where I have to see slow motion replay than call one that clearly did not happen. I want to get the obvious ones. It is that simple and that is the line. And that does not apply to just traveling either. Fouls, carry, back court, 10 second and lane violations. I want everyone to basically say, "Yeah, he traveled."

Peace

We are expected to get the obvious ones. That is a given. But I expect to get some that are not obvious. If I call one correctly that most people have to look at a replay to verify, that is a good call. If we only call the obvious, we are probably not calling enough.


There is a huge problem with this. It is not uncommon for everyone to say so when it wasn't a travel.