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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:12pm
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I would wait until it is all done and then take him out of the game. I guess you could give them a T for refusing to follow a request of an official, but that is too extreme to me in this situation.

I also think you could technically remove the player for not being ready too, but then again there are a lot of ways to send a message. Just wait until a dead ball (even after a basket) and take the player out of the game. Not sure you need to go through all that other stuff to make a point.

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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:39pm
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The refusal is not covered in the case play. Once the request has been made and the lane has been cleared, which does follow the case play, it does not state if the player did or did not comply. It appears that the player WILL comply. If he does not, I suppose that a T could be called on the player. But, there is no provision for sending him out and having a replacement shooter.
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:00pm
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Put me in the camp of not handing out a T. If the player doesn't want to comply, clear the lane, shoot the free throws, then have the player replaced.
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:27pm
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A T is justified, and I really don't like the idea of letting a kid get away with ignoring the official's directive. I'm probably just clearing the lane and shooting, but if he's been a problem child in the game, I'm letting his coach know the T is coming. The coach is being a dick in the OP, so I'm not surprised junior is.

Worse case, the kid gets two Ts and his sub can come in to shoot.

I'd have to actually be there to know for sure.
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Old Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:01pm
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A T is justified, and I really don't like the idea of letting a kid get away with ignoring the official's directive. I'm probably just clearing the lane and shooting, but if he's been a problem child in the game, I'm letting his coach know the T is coming. The coach is being a dick in the OP, so I'm not surprised junior is.

Worse case, the kid gets two Ts and his sub can come in to shoot.

I'd have to actually be there to know for sure.
I tend to agree here. Otherwise, the kid is showing up the official and the official is letting him get away with it. Even giving the kid a "short leash" for the balance of the game is not a solution. My only question: Was this kid doing this the whole game? If so, sending him out early would have prevented this situation from even occurring.
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Old Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:40am
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Put me in the camp of not handing out a T. If the player doesn't want to comply, clear the lane, shoot the free throws, then have the player replaced.
According to the case play, that's what you're supposed to do if the player DOES comply: clear the lane, tuck it in, shoot the free throws, replace the player. If a player defies an official, what else is there but a T?
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Old Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:23am
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According to the case play, that's what you're supposed to do if the player DOES comply: clear the lane, tuck it in, shoot the free throws, replace the player. If a player defies an official, what else is there but a T?
Case play never says if the player complies or not...either way, he's going to have a seat on the bench.
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Case play never says if the player complies or not...either way, he's going to have a seat on the bench.
It doesn't explicitly say so but it is the assumed conclusion from being directed to do so.
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I'm pretty sure that if you T a kid (or send him to the bench) in a hs game for not tucking in his jersey in my hs assn, that might be the last time you work any games.
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