Disconcert

[MD Longhorn]

I've never seen "cut it out" fail to work in this situation.

[Freddy]

A) I was vociferously castigated for calling this violation on bench personnel at a camp two years ago (I thought one of the clinicians had put them up to it to see what/if we would do anything about it). Was schooled that this violation is only for "players" on the court, though the rule clearly states "opponents." I wasn't in a position to argue the point, this being camp and all...then,

B) Consensus on this forum after that sitch was brought up in a thread was that this is better handled with 1) a warning, then 2) a bench T for unsporting conduct if they didn't knock it off.

That made the score camp clinician and forum 2, me 0. I'm still unclear as to exactly what of the two choices I would do should it occur again.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

This violation is only for "players" on the court.

Disagree 100%.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Freddy

I'm still unclear as to exactly what of the two choices I would do should it occur again.

Yeah, that sucks. Who is the real authority? I hear you.

I would ask someone you trust, then. I will say that some of those that chime in here are rather high up the chain. And I will also say that in every case but one where my higher ups were saying one thing and this board was saying something else - in the end it turned out to be this board that was right.

But you have to live where you are, and work for whom you work.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Freddy

A) [COLOR="Red"]I was vociferously castigated....

Heckuva word picture....

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Heckuva word picture....

Better than being literally castrated.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Better than being literally castrated.

I was squirming in my chair the whole time I was reading his post....

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by DLH17

I was squirming in my chair the whole time I was reading his post....

Same here, reminded me of branding time in Montana!

[BigT]

What if we pre-game that in the first half the lead keeps an eye on the bench during the first shot. If he believes a bench player has started to cross the line disconcerting the free thrower as he is releasing the ball then we can give him another shot and let the bench know they are approaching an unsportsman like T. If they arent too bad he can come up into the key for the 2nd shot and ask me to tell the bench to knock it off. Sounds like more often then not this could be a simple warning.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Freddy

A) I was vociferously castigated for calling this violation on bench personnel at a camp two years ago (I thought one of the clinicians had put them up to it to see what/if we would do anything about it). Was schooled that this violation is only for "players" on the court, though the rule clearly states "opponents." I wasn't in a position to argue the point, this being camp and all...then,

B) Consensus on this forum after that sitch was brought up in a thread was that this is better handled with 1) a warning, then 2) a bench T for unsporting conduct if they didn't knock it off.

That made the score camp clinician and forum 2, me 0. I'm still unclear as to exactly what of the two choices I would do should it occur again.

Nearly had this situation yesterday. Home team player is shooting the first of two free throws when someone from the bench yells "{name of visiting school}" right as the shot begins. While the try was successful, making the yelling moot, I immediately thought of disconcertion and was ready to call it on the second throw if necessary. Luckily nothing happened, as it appears disconcertion would not be the correct call.

I can see a warning as a way to try to resolve this via preventive officiating before escalating to a T.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Luckily nothing happened, as it appears disconcertion would not be the correct call.

I can see a warning as a way to try to resolve this via preventive officiating before escalating to a T.

I think you have that backwards.

[Adam]

Warning, then a violation. If they continue (they won't), then we might consider a T.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I've never seen "cut it out" fail to work in this situation.

This, only I use "knock it off" usually followed by the "Who me?" expression from the kids on the bench.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by Rufus

This, only I use "knock it off" usually followed by the "Who me?" expression from the kids on the bench.

Or, "I wasn't talking to him"