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Old Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:20am
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Sounds like you did just fine! You'll find that each game seems a little easier then the last until you hit one of "those" games where everything goes to he11. I like the positive outlook and how you are already working towards improving yourself in future games!
I would try to tune out what coaches are saying to you, they will try to work you in any way they can.
If it can be arranged, it would be good to sit with a mentor and watch a varsity or jv game and quietly discuss the calls and other pertinent information. This forum has been great to see the comments on video clips and how different officials evaluate the same situation. Your mentor might be able to give you some great advice or insight similar to what you see on here. Good luck in your future games! I like basketball officiating because its like a never ending hunt! (hunting for fouls and violations)
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Old Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:48am
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Sounds like you did just fine! You'll find that each game seems a little easier then the last until you hit one of "those" games where everything goes to he11. I like the positive outlook and how you are already working towards improving yourself in future games!
I would try to tune out what coaches are saying to you, they will try to work you in any way they can.
If it can be arranged, it would be good to sit with a mentor and watch a varsity or jv game and quietly discuss the calls and other pertinent information. This forum has been great to see the comments on video clips and how different officials evaluate the same situation. Your mentor might be able to give you some great advice or insight similar to what you see on here. Good luck in your future games! I like basketball officiating because its like a never ending hunt! (hunting for fouls and violations)
I had one of "those games" tonight. 1 double tech, 1 player tech,a decent timing error, and I am still kicking myself for not ringing up one of the assistant coaches with a t as well. he was very disrespectful and I missed tagging him. I won't let that happen EVER again. Partner is in his first season as a HS ref. Had a nasty cold so his voice was gone. This did not help matters. We were not consistent on block/charge calls which I think had a little to do with misunderstanding of the rule by my P. Don't get me wrong he did a fine job otherwise. Had a good post game chat and then chatted with a V official who was watching his son play. He actually said we did a pretty good job aside from the stuff I already mentioned.
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Old Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:14am
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I had one of "those games" tonight. 1 double tech, 1 player tech,a decent timing error, and I am still kicking myself for not ringing up one of the assistant coaches with a t as well. he was very disrespectful and I missed tagging him. I won't let that happen EVER again. Partner is in his first season as a HS ref. Had a nasty cold so his voice was gone. This did not help matters. We were not consistent on block/charge calls which I think had a little to do with misunderstanding of the rule by my P. Don't get me wrong he did a fine job otherwise. Had a good post game chat and then chatted with a V official who was watching his son play. He actually said we did a pretty good job aside from the stuff I already mentioned.
Yep, that was one of "those games" glad you survived to ref another day! What was the decent timing error?
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Old Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:54pm
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Yep, that was one of "those games" glad you survived to ref another day! What was the decent timing error?
Team in backcourt inbounded the ball after a TO. I had a ten second call. One of the coaches was complaining that the clock didn't start. After conversing with the timekeeper. It was determined that he did start the clock albeit late, thus I did not have definate knowledge of what the time should have been. I usually am pretty good at keeping track of that stuff but this time I didn't look to see what the time was or if the clock started on the throw in. Lessons learned: Always look at the clock right after inbounding the ball to see the time and ensure that it properly starts. We didn't change the time but had he not started the clock at all and I had a ten count, we could have set the clock to 10 seconds less by rule, correct?

It was 3:34 left in the 4th quarter BTW. I pay much closer attention to the clock starts and stops when there is under 2 minutes left and especially in the fourth quarter.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:06am
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Team in backcourt inbounded the ball after a TO. I had a ten second call. One of the coaches was complaining that the clock didn't start. After conversing with the timekeeper. It was determined that he did start the clock albeit late, thus I did not have definate knowledge of what the time should have been. I usually am pretty good at keeping track of that stuff but this time I didn't look to see what the time was or if the clock started on the throw in. Lessons learned: Always look at the clock right after inbounding the ball to see the time and ensure that it properly starts. We didn't change the time but had he not started the clock at all and I had a ten count, we could have set the clock to 10 seconds less by rule, correct?

It was 3:34 left in the 4th quarter BTW. I pay much closer attention to the clock starts and stops when there is under 2 minutes left and especially in the fourth quarter.
I would have done as you did. Great habit to look at the clock right after a throwin. Just officiate about 50 5th-6th grade games with parent volunteers running the clock and you'll always check the clock!
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:43am
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we could have set the clock to 10 seconds less by rule, correct?
Correct, thanks to 5-10-2

If the referee determines that the clock malfunctioned or was not started/stopped properly, or if the clock did not run, an official's count or other official information may be used to make a correction.
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My P last night (also a college official) "whacked" both coaches in the first half.
For some reason, the second half was much calmer and quieter.....
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