The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:43pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Hancock
Posts: 12
Ref down!

I've got a situation I'm curious about. In our small community in northern Michigan, we are short handed with registered officials. We simply do not have enough numbers to have 3 man crews at every game. Most times we work 2 man crews 4 nights a week.

So, if late in the 4th quarter of a close Varsity game my partner goes down with an injury, there are no other registered officials in the gym or nearby, what are my options? By rule, if coaches agree, can I finish the game by myself? Or must the game be postponed till a later date and resume at the point of interruption?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:44pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,019
Quote:
Originally Posted by evictor24 View Post
I've got a situation I'm curious about. In our small community in northern Michigan, we are short handed with registered officials. We simply do not have enough numbers to have 3 man crews at every game. Most times we work 2 man crews 4 nights a week.

So, if late in the 4th quarter of a close Varsity game my partner goes down with an injury, there are no other registered officials in the gym or nearby, what are my options? By rule, if coaches agree, can I finish the game by myself? Or must the game be postponed till a later date and resume at the point of interruption?
Up to the conference / state.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:10pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 22,952
The Constitution State ...

Here, in my little corner of Connecticut, if one of the junior varsity officials didn't hang around to observe the varsity game, and then become available to fill in, then we finish the game with one official. We even have a statewide "unofficial" set of mechanics for one person games. We never work a game with a non-certified official, which here in Connecticut, means a non-IAABO official.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:15pm
This IS My Social Life
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: at L, T, or C
Posts: 2,379
All I Could Find

Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins View Post
Up to the conference / state.
All that's mentioned in the state Officials' Manual is this, which may/may not apply (but it seems close to your sitch):

OFFICIAL FAILS TO ARRIVE
In the event a contracted official fails to arrive for a scheduled contest,
those officials who are present may 1) officiate the contest with less than
the usual number of officials; 2) re place the absent official with a local
registered official to fill-in or 3) cooperate with the involved teams to post -
pone the contest.
Note: It is never an option to accept or use the services of an
unregistered official.


For an official ruling, give the state a call. They'd be more than happy to advise.
__________________
Making Every Effort to Be in the Right Place at the Right Time, Looking at the Right Thing to Make the Right Call
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:18pm
This IS My Social Life
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: at L, T, or C
Posts: 2,379
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
Here, in my little corner of Connecticut, if one of the junior varsity officials didn't hang around to observe the varsity game, and then become available to fill in, then we finish the game with one official. We even have a statewide "unofficial" set of mechanics for one person games. We never work a game with a non-certified official, which here in Connecticut, means a non-IAABO official.
In your state, doesn't the remaining official just get a rotating bar stool at midcourt from which to officiate the game?
__________________
Making Every Effort to Be in the Right Place at the Right Time, Looking at the Right Thing to Make the Right Call
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:54pm
Back from the DL
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Maine
Posts: 2,540
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
We even have a statewide "unofficial" set of mechanics for one person games.
This intrigues me. What more mechanics would you need?
__________________
Confidence is a vehicle, not a destination.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:30pm
ddn ddn is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: WI/MI
Posts: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by evictor24 View Post
I've got a situation I'm curious about. In our small community in northern Michigan, we are short handed with registered officials. We simply do not have enough numbers to have 3 man crews at every game. Most times we work 2 man crews 4 nights a week.
Sent you a private message. I'm a registered official in your area looking for varisty (heck, anything) games.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:51pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 22,952
One-person officiating guidelines ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by bainsey View Post
This intrigues me. What more mechanics would you need?
Note: This statewide draft was never made "official".

ONE-PERSON OFFICIATING GUIDELINES
INTERIM DRAFT – OCTOBER 2008
It is quite possible that you will eventually officiate a game by yourself. This document offers officiating guidelines and one-person officiating mechanics you should follow.
Assignment Commissioner
- Contact the Commissioner either before or after the game.
- If you are assigned a game by the Assignment Commissioner, DO NOT accept an offer from a parent, coach, or a non-IAABO certified official. Work alone. Liability issues arise if you work with anyone other than a certified IAABO official.
Coaches and Administrators Conference
- Conduct a pre-game meeting with both coaches and the game administrator.
- Confirm that everyone is in agreement.
- Request coaches cooperation and express advance appreciation for them assisting you in keeping themselves and their teams under control.
- Stress and remind them of the importance of good sportsmanship and the example that they can and should set for their players.
Pregame Captains-Coaches Meeting
- Conduct at 2-minute mark
- Explain that you will appreciate and expect the cooperation from both teams.
- Explain that you expect the players to retrieve all loose balls once the whistle is sounded.
Floor Coverage
- Work the sideline, (choose either nearest or opposite) from the scorer’s table, moving from free throw line extended to free throw line extended. This will give you the same angle as both coaches to help reduce any disagreements, since you will be on the same side of the court as the coaches.
- As the ball goes toward the opposite sideline, you will have to move off the sideline toward the center of the floor.
- Avoid getting caught on the end line.
- You must work hard at getting open looks and move to obtain proper angles in order to be in the most advantageous position to referee all players. Have a high level of awareness on plays to the basket and shooters.
Start/Stop Clock
- You must stop/start clock at all opportunities using the proper mechanic. For example, after a missed free throw that will remain live, you must start the clock.
Out of Bounds
- Request players and coaches to assist you on out of bounds violations if necessary.
- If disagreement results, use the alternating possession arrow to make decision.
- After designating the throw-in spot, move to your position (see Floor Coverage) and either bounce or toss the ball to the player for the throw-in.
Time Outs
- Stand at the division line, ¾ away from the scorer’s table with ball on hip toward the teams’ basket which will have control of the ball. After 1st horn, move to area on the playing court where play will resume.
Three Point Shots
- Do not guess. Move to improve your angle, if you don’t know, it counts as 2-points the same as if there were two officials working the game.
Reporting Fouls
- Move towards an area visible to the scorers and keeping as many players within your field of vision.
Free Throw Coverage
- Assemble the players and administer every free throw from the Trail position.
- Ensure proper alignment of players on free throw lane lines, leaving the first spaces between the end line and neutral blocks vacant.
- Closely monitor disconcertion.
Presses
- Remain at the free throw line extended in the backcourt, (nearest or opposite) the scorer/timer table and move up the court with the players.
Maintain Control
- Maintain your composure.
- You may need to blow your whistle more so players do not take advantage of the situation.
- Take charge early to help keep the crazy stuff in check.
- Do not argue with the coaches. Keep your cool and remind them that you are working hard for them.
- Do the best you can. It is not your fault that this situation occurred.
- Remember that, if approached properly, people will almost always be willing to assist.
- Remember that you are the best official on the floor, albeit the only one.
Sources: Greater Sudbury Board of Basketball Officials (IAABO Board 106) and
Topeka Officials Association (Kansas State High School Activities Association)

Note: This section confuses me: "Floor Coverage - Work the sideline, (choose either nearest or opposite) from the scorer’s table ... This will give you the same angle as both coaches to help reduce any disagreements, since you will be on the same side of the court as the coaches."

Do they want you on the same side as the coaches? If so, then why offer the option of the other side? I prefer the side opposite the table. The coaches, if they're honest, can help me on the table side boundary, and if they don't, then I can go to the arrow.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)

Last edited by BillyMac; Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 10:11pm.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:48pm
Statistician/Ref Hybrid
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
Posts: 1,037
Unless there are league or association rules to the contrary, I think you just do the best you can to finish the game solo.
__________________
"Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible." – Dalai Lama

The center of attention as the lead & trail. – me
Games officiated: 525 Basketball · 76 Softball · 16 Baseball
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:50pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by evictor24 View Post
I've got a situation I'm curious about. In our small community in northern Michigan, we are short handed with registered officials. We simply do not have enough numbers to have 3 man crews at every game. Most times we work 2 man crews 4 nights a week.

So, if late in the 4th quarter of a close Varsity game my partner goes down with an injury, there are no other registered officials in the gym or nearby, what are my options? By rule, if coaches agree, can I finish the game by myself? Or must the game be postponed till a later date and resume at the point of interruption?
I wouldn't finish the game.
__________________
"...as cool as the other side of the pillow." - Stuart Scott

"You should never be proud of doing the right thing." - Dean Smith
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:28am
We don't rent pigs
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,627
Never finished one, but started one by myself. Game time, no partner. Made a couple of calls and was encouraged by the very solid report that "he's supposed to be on the way." I simply asked the coaches whether they'd rather wait or start with what we had, and they both said start. He arrived a few minutes later, really not that big a deal.
__________________
I swear, Gus, you'd argue with a possum.
It'd be easier than arguing with you, Woodrow.


Lonesome Dove
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:16am
Aleve Titles to Others
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: East Westchester of the Southern Conference
Posts: 5,381
Send a message via AIM to 26 Year Gap
I ended up filling in for the second half one time as a JV official when one of the varsity guys went down with illness at HT. Of course, around here, those guys are gone before the echo of the final horn has disappeared. I always stayed till 3rd qtr was over, but I was not usually accompanied by my partner from the JV game.

I don't think it is good to finish alone in that type of situation. Especially if it has been a tight game.
__________________
Never hit a piñata if you see hornets flying out of it.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:05am
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 22,952
Plus You Get A 150% Fee ...

Here in my little corner of Connecticut, due to many officials being unavailable for mid afternoon, and late afternoon games, i.e middle school games (3:30 p.m.), and freshman games (4:00 p.m.), some of these assignments are often scheduled, and covered, by only one official.

Most of us have day jobs. I guess that the fans all know this because they keep yelling to me, "Hey ref. Don't quit you day job".
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:51am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,856
...a timely thread...

I got a call from a Varsity official last night telling me about his game.

3-whistle crew...one of the 3 officials was warming up before the game and decided that he couldn't go because of his back. One of the previous games officials was staying to watch...so he got the nod. (He did a JV game that night, and is indeed an up and coming Varsity official) Good for him that he stuck around.

Then, during the game a second official from this cursed crew "popped his achilles tendon". Luckily, another official was watching the game...so he got the nod. (This official was a Varsity official about 20 years ago. He left the area, but has returned this year to officiate...good for him that he was there and ready to go.)

Just goes to show that it can be a good career move (in more ways than one) to stay and watch the Varsity guys.
__________________
Dan Ivey
Tri-City Sports Officials Asso. (TCSOA)
Member since 1989
Richland, WA
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:22am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1