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Adam Thu Dec 13, 2012 01:41pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 866663)
I have a hard time believing there is any assignor or supervisor who tells his officials it's expected that they check the time-outs and inform the coaches.

Agreed.

Maybe I'll do it in my next evaluated game and see if it's mentioned.

Raymond Thu Dec 13, 2012 01:50pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 866667)
High School...3 man and 2 man. 13 years. They all said they like knowing at the end of the game. We don't have assignors.

So you contract directly with the schools? That might explain why you do it that way there.

tomegun and I might not be the most popular officials in that type of system. :cool:

OKREF Thu Dec 13, 2012 01:51pm

I'm just saying it is something we do here, and yes I talked to 10 coaches in that time frame.

Raymond Thu Dec 13, 2012 01:53pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 866674)
I'm just saying it is something we do here, and yes I talked to 10 coaches in that time frame.

Gotta keep your employers happy. :D

I might be lucky if more than 3-4 local HS coaches even know my name.

OKREF Thu Dec 13, 2012 01:55pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 866673)
So you contract directly with the schools? That might explain why you do it that way there.

tomegun and I might not be the most popular officials in that type of system. :cool:

Yes. The schools/coaches schedule with the officials directly. Like I said in another thread, I already have my schedule for the 2013-14 season. In the Metro areas they do have assignors, but only in the OKC and Tulsa area.

zm1283 Thu Dec 13, 2012 01:56pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 866674)
I'm just saying it is something we do here, and yes I talked to 10 coaches in that time frame.

I'm sure they were glad to have you call them during their day to give you validation.

OKREF Thu Dec 13, 2012 01:59pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 866681)
I'm sure they were glad to have you call them during their day to give you validation.

The reason I talked to them was the majority of the people here didn't do it. I was wanting to know if it was something they liked or maybe we needed to stop doing it. I am always willing to listen and take in what other officials are doing. What works here may not work were you are at, and what works were you are at may to work here.

Raymond Thu Dec 13, 2012 02:01pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 866678)
Yes. The schools/coaches schedule with the officials directly. Like I said in another thread, I already have my schedule for the 2013-14 season. In the Metro areas they do have assignors, but only in the OKC and Tulsa area.

If I would have took up officiating 14 years earlier than I did then my career would have started out in Altus. I would probably not have lasted too long in that type of system.

Raymond Thu Dec 13, 2012 02:03pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 866683)
The reason I talked to them was the majority of the people here didn't do it. I was wanting to know if it was something they liked or maybe we needed to stop doing it. I am always willing to listen and take in what other officials are doing. What works here may not work were you are at, and what works were you are at may to work here.

How do you get evaluations of your performance? (and please don't say from the coaches :eek: )

OKREF Thu Dec 13, 2012 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 866685)
How do you get evaluations of your performance? (and please don't say from the coaches :eek: )

No. The state association sends out evaluators who have a standard form with criteria. I got evaluated last week and just got my copy from the state this morning. It has five sections. Uniform and appearance, physical condition, attitude and personality, game control, and mechanics. Under each of those there are categories. For instance under game control it has Pregame, sharp whistle, sells calls when necessary, good communications-coaches, table and players, knowledge of rules and interpretations, proper positioning, and judgement. Room for comments on one side of the form. Then they rate us for each category. Superior, good, average, fair, poor.

This is sent to the state association and they send me a copy. Now the coaches are required to go online and rate officials, but they also have to put if they won or lost as well.

OKREF Thu Dec 13, 2012 02:12pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 866684)
If I would have took up officiating 14 years earlier than I did then my career would have started out in Altus. I would probably not have lasted too long in that type of system.

I was at Altus Tuesday night. Small world.

Raymond Thu Dec 13, 2012 02:21pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 866687)
I was at Altus Tuesday night. Small world.

I lived there from '87-89 so I witnessed Thurman Thomas and Barry Sanders play college football and OU make the NCAA title game with Lawton's own Stacy King on the team.

Best thing about those years is the Dallas Cowboys were absolutely putrid so I didn't have to deal with their fans.

Back on topic, I wish our state organization was more proactive about evaluating officials during the season.

just another ref Thu Dec 13, 2012 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 866636)
This is a problem?

No, this, of course is legitimate. I have no problem with the blast of the whistle as we entered the court. I have read here, have I not, that some others do that as well. But nobody does it around here except this guy. As for the pins, if I see them, I tell them to take them out, but they're not something that I squint a lot looking for.

Nevadaref Thu Dec 13, 2012 05:01pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 866576)
Transfer from Texas?

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Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2 (Post 866632)
I was thinking more like Nevada!:D

I see the similarity. We have guns too, and you will be hunted down! :eek:


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