Say what?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Others on the Forum, in the past, have criticized me on this point before. Thirty-two years. No one has ever moved the basketball. Never ever.

I have no idea what you do in your area, I just stated what I would not do. Around here there are student sections that would move the ball if you gave them the opportunity and cheerleaders that pay little attention when a timeout is called. So in my experience all it takes is one time and I would not want to take that chance. Remember you said you still work 2 Person in your state so who knows what kind of attention to basketball your state might have. Here I would be scared if I put the ball down and some cheerleader fell over the ball. BTW, I had seen a cheerleader almost trip over a ball before and it was not in my game. As always, do what works for you, but I would not do that here, EVER!!!

Peace

[tomegun]

I would suggest you discuss this in pregame - no matter how many times you work with someone. Know the status of the ball before granting a timeout and know the position for the throw-in before reporting to the table. Every time, the same thing.

I also would not relay any information. If I grant the timeout, I will report the timeout to the table.

Did you have any feeling that things weren't totally right during the entire game? If so, could you have made sure your communication was on point in a situation like this? If those officials aren't as experienced as you, then the assignor may have put you on the game to keep things like this from happening (assuming you work in a system that would allow that). I know I will assign myself or the assistant crew chief as the U2 to give someone else an opportunity to be the R. If something isn't right during the game I'm sure not going to keep quiet because I'm not the R.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I know I will assign myself or the assistant crew chief as the U2 to give someone else an opportunity to be the R. If something isn't right during the game I'm sure not going to keep quiet because I'm not the R.

This is the very reason assignors at higher levels are looking for Rs and not U1s and U2s so they can have those step up and handle these situations without being prompted.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I also would not relay any information. If I grant the timeout, I will report the timeout to the table.

IAABO mechanics won't allow us to do that. In fact, I believe that back when we used NFHS mechanics, a change was made, also not allowing us to do that, i.e bumping the timeout. But, then again, I know more about quantum physics than I do about recent NFHS mechanics.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

IAABO mechanics won't allow us to do that. In fact, I believe that back when we used NFHS mechanics, a change was made, also not allowing us to do that, i.e bumping the timeout. But, then again, I know more about quantum physics than I do about recent NFHS mechanics.

We bump a timeout. Never had an evaluater say anything about it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I know more about quantum physics than I do about recent NFHS mechanics.

Originally Posted by OKREF

We bump a timeout. Never had an evaluater say anything about it.

Allowed under NFHS mechanics, or just a local mechanic?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Allowed under NFHS mechanics, or just a local mechanic?

Not everything is regulated by mechanics.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not everything is regulated by mechanics.

Thus my reference to a "local mechanic". Here in Connecticut we point to the three point line when a shooter has stepped on the line. We also use the "hard foul" signal. I believe that both are local to Connecticut, and are not approved by IAABO.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Allowed under NFHS mechanics, or just a local mechanic?

Local mechanic. NFHS does say the mechanic is for the official who called the timeout to administer the time out. However, if I on the endline call the timeout and we are going the length of the floor, my partner will administer the timeout and I would stay where the ball will be inbounded, preventing a "long switch". Saves steps. We always have one person at the spot of the throw in during any time out. There is no dispute as to where the ball will be inbounded.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by OKREF

However, if I on the endline call the timeout and we are going the length of the floor, my partner will administer the timeout and I would stay where the ball will be inbounded, preventing a "long switch". Saves steps. We always have one person at the spot of the throw in during any time out. There is no dispute as to where the ball will be inbounded.

We used to be able to do this, calling it "bumping the timeout", but then it got changed to having to go from the endline, to the reporting area, and then back to the endline, with our partner taking his spot at the division line.

I can't remember if it was changed under NFHS mechanics (that we use to use several years ago), or our newer IAABO mechanics.

I do remember our local interpreter telling us the reason for the change, because there were some mistakes taking place during the "bump". Official 1 grants a request for a timeout to Team A, it gets "bumped" to his partner, who happens to be closer to the table, and Official 2 reports the timeout as charged to Team B. That's how the reasoning was explained to us. With no "bumping", Official 1 grants the request for the timeout, and he's the one who reports the timeout to be charged to Team A. No chance for a mistake.