NFHS - scorekeeper shirt - issues?

[Rich Ives]

The Yankees and Phillies have vertically striped home jerseys. Would wearing one of them be acceptable?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

The Yankees and Phillies have vertically striped home jerseys. Would wearing one of them be acceptable?

If those teams change their team colors to black and white.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Here, if they aren't wearing it, you play the game. Then e-mail the state head of officiating and the school gets a call.

Same. I have had 5 sophmore games and 1 jv game and they have all had the required shirt. Although one older grouchy lady made it known she wasn't happy about it.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

I was talking to another scorer out here who is starting her 12'th year (I'm starting my 7'th) and she made the point that when you meet with the table you find out who the official scorer is for the home school.But by the same token when the playoffs start and you start getting out of area crews they won't know who the official scorers are at each school as well as the officials from that area.How many of you go back to schools and see the same official scorer or table crew year after year?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Matt S.

With the hair/headband stuff, we can have the player sit.

Great idea. If the officials scorekeeper doesn't have, or refuses to wear, a black and white vertically stripped shirt, then have him sit down. Yeah. That'll teach him.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Matt S.

Thanks for all the responses; we are following similar protocal in Nebraska--emailing assignor and/or state, depending on who assigns the game.

I guess my real beef is with the Federation--why write a rule and not put anything behind it? With the hair/headband stuff, we can have the player sit; with non-unsporting situations, we can still issue a T; obviously none of us want to be the bad guy, but like I said in the OP, it just puts us in a lousy position...

What teeth could possibly be put into it? A member of the officiating team is failing to abide by the rule. Do we call a T on the referees? The scorekeeper isn't a member of either team so it's not possible to have a penalty.

[Rich]

What cracks me up is that these are people who are being paid (at least in my area) to be the scorers and yet they expect the schools to buy their shirts.

When will someone buy my shirts?

[RadioBlue]

Worked a JH Girls Sectional final last week. The official scorer had on the stripes!
So did the timekeeper. [facepalm]

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Rich

When will someone buy my shirts?

When you put it on your holiday list perhaps?

Just sayin......

[Altor]

Originally Posted by grunewar

When you put it on your holiday list perhaps?

My father and I will often buy each other officiating uniforms for Christmas.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by RadioBlue

Worked a JH Girls Sectional final last week. The official scorer had on the stripes!
So did the timekeeper. [facepalm]

Before I made the decision to officiate starting this winter, I had bought a striped shirt for the new rule change... Was the only person in all of our MS games to wear one this fall.

I can't remember if NCAA recommends the timer to wear stripes, but I do seem to recall a number of colleges where the scorer, timer, and maybe shot clock operator wore striped shirts.

Edited to add: We received a statement at tonight's association meeting. For the varsity level, they definitely want the table reminded of the rule, along with notifying the assignor and host AD about the lack of shirt. For sub-varsity, notifying the assignor/AD is not necessary, but it sounds like you can still make the reminder if you really want to do something.

[piranhadawn]

Ive only seen one game where they were not wearing the black white striped garment.

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Same. I have had 5 sophmore games and 1 jv game and they have all had the required shirt. Although one older grouchy lady made it known she wasn't happy about it.

Tell her it is a Versache.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by APG

I dunno how you're put in a lousy spot...ask if the scorer will be wearing the required stripped shirt. If not, report to the proper authorities. About as simple as it gets without anyone raising an issue.

Like a tear away jersey?

[VaTerp]

Why on earth would we as officials want to get any more involved in what someone at the table is wearing or have to issue a T for something like this?

As someone else stated, it does not put us in an kind of spot and is VERY simple. They have a shirt, great. They don't have it, send an email to your commish/assignor.

And why some people feel the need to bring an extra shirt is also beyond me. One of my partners did this my first game of the year. The table already had the shirt and the extra shirt somehow disappeared. So now the guy lost a shirt because he was trying to do too much.

This reminds me of the guys who will ask kids if sleeves are for medical reasons. Some people just go looking for problems.