Right. Now count down from 20:00.

Ok. :confused: Keep going... I'm a pudding head so I'm slow. ;)

If you count down the 10 minute time limit from 20:00, that's going to expire when it ticks from 10:01 to 10:00.

So if you're at 10:00, the time limit has already expired.

Not necessarily.

And, not relevant to any (basketball) rule.

Yeah-huh.

(That's an invitation to offer an argument rather than a mere denial.)

For most clocks, setting the clock to 20:00 is 20:00.000000

Thr first instance of changing from 10:01 to 10:00 is really 10:00.9999999

I think the relevance part is up to you to prove.

I Thought That You Guys Could Use This ...
 

The official U.S. time - clock

It's accurate to within 0.2 seconds. If you guys need a higher degree of accuracy, as I think that you do, then go to the National Institute of Standards and Technology, or the U. S. Naval Observatory.

If the clock is at 10:00.9999999 (whatever it's displaying), then it is not at 10:00. Once it reaches, 10:00, the 10 minute time limit has expired.

The rule specifies the 10 minute time limit. That's the rule we're talking about, so it's relevant.

Maybe, but "reaching 10:00" is not the same as "ticking from 10:01 to 10:00" as you said before.

Bob, you're not normally one to split hairs. Why so particular on this one? It isn't like it is a shot getting released at the buzzer.

I can't imagine anyone (much less you) being so hard nosed in a game that they'll T the coach if the piece of paper with the player's numbers and names doesn't make contact with the scorer's table until 9:59 or some fraction of a second around 10:00.

I think (but maybe I'm wrong) that Maven is the one splitting hairs. I'm just responding to his (in my view) incorrect statement on what heppens when a clokc first changes from 10:01 to 10:00.

I agree it probably doesn't matter (to me) in this case, but it can matter if we use the clock to judge 10 seconds or if the clock shows 0:00 (no tenths) and the horn hasn't sounded, etc.

Older style clocks that did not register tenths of seconds did not have the horn go off the instant it went from :01 to :00. I think that is Bob's point.

Except that I would add "SOME clocks ...."