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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:32pm
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Great discussion on this topic BTW. I just honestly believe that the contact would have been avoided. Next I look at who is more responsible for this contact, and on this particular play I believe the offense is and for that reason I would go PC or nothing. Then just take my butt chewing from whichever coach I get it from!!
This is why I don't focus too much on who initiated the contact. Sometimes a defender makes a mistake that leaves him wide open to this play.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:34pm
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This is why I don't focus too much on who initiated the contact. Sometimes a defender makes a mistake that leaves him wide open to this play.
I don't usually either, but I think on this play it does play a factor.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:44pm
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I don't usually either, but I think on this play it does play a factor.
I'm inclined to say just the opposite.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:47pm
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I'm inclined to say just the opposite.
What's great about all this is, none of us no what we would call until we have it and see it at full speed.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:51pm
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What's great about all this is, none of us no what we would call until we have it and see it at full speed.
Part of experience is seeing plays in all kinds of ways and knowing where the rules and standards apply. I do not need to see a play live to know how to call this play or how I would call this live or in slow motion. This is about as basic a foul on the defender as I can think of based on my experience. I call a lot of PC fouls and this would not be one of them.

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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:53pm
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Part of experience is seeing plays in all kinds of ways and knowing where the rules and standards apply. I do not need to see a play live to know how to call this play or how I would call this live or in slow motion. This is about as basic a foul on the defender as I can think of based on my experience. I call a lot of PC fouls and this would not be one of them.

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Your right, and I am probably overthinking this. It would be a tough sell on the PC. However easy sell on a block.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:14pm
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What's great about all this is, none of us no what we would call until we have it and see it at full speed.
Well, an occasional poster to this forum actually worked the T-Wolves/Warriors game.

And the video I saw was at full speed.

And I know what I would call.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:02pm
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What's great about all this is, none of us no what we would call until we have it and see it at full speed.
Really? I'd call this a foul on the defense easily. No questions asked. You may think this is a difficult play, but IMO, this is probably one of the easier plays we've discussed here.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:03pm
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Really? I'd call this a foul on the defense easily. No questions asked. You may think this is a difficult play, but IMO, this is probably one of the easier plays we've discussed here.
As I said earler. I am overthinking it, and making it harder than it needs to be.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:05pm
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Really? I'd call this a foul on the defense easily. No questions asked. You may think this is a difficult play, but IMO, this is probably one of the easier plays we've discussed here.
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