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brainbrian Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:00pm

Does your association/assignor charge schools/referees
 
Does your association or assignor charge the schools for the games they assign or charge the referees anything or do they do it for free? If they do charge anyone how much do they charge and does the money go to the association or the assignor or some of both?

PG_Ref Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:09pm

I've officiated in a few states/locations and I've only known assignors to charge referees an assingor's fee ... that goes to them.

csb1971 Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:14pm

A couple of the larger school districts in this area (Denver Metro) have employees do the assigning, so it's part of their normal day to day assignments. I would imagine that the schools pay the others something, but I don't know for certain.

Raymond Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:33pm

Here on the peninsula of Hampton Roads the assignors charge the schools a flat fee annually to schedule their games (I believe it's in the $50-100 range) and take 8% of each officials game fee.

JRutledge Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:36pm

We are assigned only by conference assignors. So the school hire the assignor that do not have to have affiliation to any association. Bottom line, the assignors hire who they want to from any association. Associations are not assigning bodies around here.

Peace

rockyroad Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:42pm

Our assignors charge us 10% of our game fee (not mileage)...the company that does the billing of schools and pays us our checks charges the schools 13% of the officials fees (not mileage).

ballgame99 Thu Oct 18, 2012 01:03pm

our local association charges us an annual fee of $75, the majority of which goes to the member that has agreed to take on the assignor duties. I think he gets paid several thousand bucks to do it.

Adam Thu Oct 18, 2012 01:07pm

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Originally Posted by csb1971 (Post 858946)
A couple of the larger school districts in this area (Denver Metro) have employees do the assigning, so it's part of their normal day to day assignments. I would imagine that the schools pay the others something, but I don't know for certain.

Hmm. I thought every school in Colorado had to go through an assigner.

Interesting.

My experience here is that all assigner fees are paid by the school unseen by the officials.

Raymond Thu Oct 18, 2012 01:16pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 858957)
Here on the peninsula of Hampton Roads the assignors charge the schools a flat fee annually to schedule their games (I believe it's in the $50-100 range) and take 8% of each officials game fee.

Oh yeah, we pay the association a $40 registration fee also.

csb1971 Thu Oct 18, 2012 01:19pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 858968)
Hmm. I thought every school in Colorado had to go through an assigner.

Interesting.

My experience here is that all assigner fees are paid by the school unseen by the officials.

Adam, I'm thinking of DPS and JeffCo. I could be wrong about that, but I thought that the folks that did the assigning for those games are district employees.

Welpe Thu Oct 18, 2012 01:22pm

Here in Texas it is against the UIL constitution for schools to pay an assigning fee. Any assignment fees need to be collected from the officials. We pay $1.25 per subvarsity basketball game that goes directly to the assigner. I believe varsity is $3 but I'm not sure. Our chapter bills twice a year for assigner's fees.

In addition to that we pay state association dues and local chapter dues.

Rich Thu Oct 18, 2012 01:24pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 858975)
Here in Texas it is against the UIL constitution for schools to pay an assigning fee. Any assignment fees need to be collected from the officials. We pay $1.25 per subvarsity basketball game that goes directly to the assigner. I believe varsity is $3 but I'm not sure. Our chapter bills twice a year for assigner's fees.

In addition to that we pay state association dues and local chapter dues.

I've never seen a state that seems to hold its officials in as little regard as Texas does.

Welpe Thu Oct 18, 2012 01:29pm

We are the unpleasant odor that follows the automobile to paraphrase Christy Mathewson.

Camron Rust Thu Oct 18, 2012 01:33pm

Assigning is a big job and takes a lot of time. Very few do it for free.

How they get paid is done in may ways. Ultimately, they all come out the same.

Regardless of the specific paths the money takes, the school will be paying a certain amount for getting their games officiated. The officials will get a certain amount. The assignor will get a certain amount. Whether the assignors amount comes directly form the schools or from the schools by way of the officials (or both avenues), it doesn't really change things. The assignor deserves to make money off their efforts just as much as the officials make money off their part of the effort.

Of course, the specific amounts assignors make may vary and the total they get can certainly be argued but that doesn't change the fact that the route the money takes is irrelevant.

Our assignor, who assigns about 7,000 games gets a flat fee from the schools for each team's schedule ($25/team, IIRC) and gets 5% from each officials game fees. It make for a pretty nice income but is certainly earned.

loners4me Thu Oct 18, 2012 02:10pm

My assignor double dips collecting fees from schools and refs, then charges us an additional arbiter fee. In fact this summer I paid for a clinic only to find out the schools paid the assignor for the refs. Double dipped again .......


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