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bob jenkins Wed Oct 17, 2012 07:40am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 858692)
BINGO! ...and this is a BIG pre-game disucussion. (3-Whistle) Who is going to take the big block/charge in the key? The T/C that started with the player going to the hoop? The L that has the "play" right in front of him, and probably had the secondary defender get in a position to "take the charge"?

We usually go old school around these parts...if it's coming at you as L...you get first shot at the call...while the T/C may come up with a fist...they are patient with the signal. (DO NOT WANT A BLARGE)

When I am Lead I usually don't have a "patient whistle" as discussed in the OP concerning a block/charge. I see the play, I come out with a big "BOOM", a signal and away we go.;)

IMO, L should have a patient whistle and, more importantly, a patient call / signal on this play.

It's more difficult to do (for whatever reason) as L than as T/C. So, just because T/C hold is no reason for L to jump in early (or "get the first shot at the call").

BillyMac Wed Oct 17, 2012 08:27am

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 858696)
You don't actually yell "BOOM", do you?

Actually, he yells "Boom goes the dynamite".

tref Wed Oct 17, 2012 08:55am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 858692)
When I am Lead I usually don't have a "patient whistle" as discussed in the OP concerning a block/charge. I see the play, I come out with a big "BOOM", a signal and away we go.;)

Ahhh 300+ views later & I finally get an answer to "the question."
Thanks!!
Patient whistle is your practice on SDF plays to the basket, but you make a strong, immediate decision on B/C plays as the L. Same here, I dont think those two plays are in the same category.

The reason for the question was because I had a conversation with an official about me allowing the defender to fall to the ground before blowing my whistle. Keep in mind this was a transition outlet from the division line to the FT line extended (no dribble) basket attack. My partners had not crossed the division line yet.

My thoughts were, I refereed the defense & never had him obtaining LGP prior to the contact... so what am I waiting for???

I guess its all about who one is learning from. In the womens game I know the L allows the T/C first crack, but the principle is opposite in the mens game.

Jay R Wed Oct 17, 2012 09:09am

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 858696)
You don't actually yell "BOOM", do you?

I only say boom when I call a T:)

Jay R Wed Oct 17, 2012 09:10am

A colleague of mine often says patient whistle on the ball and quick whistle off the ball. I'm not sure I agree but I've heard it.

RookieDude Wed Oct 17, 2012 09:59pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 858696)
You don't actually yell "BOOM", do you?

...hey, I'm from the Pacific Northwest...(Legion of "BOOM"!)

...and to answer your question, Yes on many B/C calls and many Ts, I give an emphatic "Boom"... with no apologies. Sorry, if you don't like it...;)

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 858698)

It's more difficult to do (for whatever reason) as L.

...Exactly! At this point in my career I don't need "difficult". If we were doing a game we would pre-game this and decide, between our crew, how to handle it. I would suggest, to you, that I am "weak" (OK, maybe stubborn) in holding my call as L on the Block/Charge and to watch out for me. ;)

Smitty Thu Oct 18, 2012 07:25am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 858821)
...hey, I'm from the Pacific Northwest...(Legion of "BOOM"!)

I worked in the Pacific Northwest for several years - never heard anyone say "Boom".

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 858821)
...and to answer your question, Yes on many B/C calls and many Ts, I give an emphatic "Boom"... with no apologies. Sorry, if you don't like it...;)

Nice contradiction. I don't like it, but I also don't expect you to care.

tref Thu Oct 18, 2012 09:50am

Although I'd like to see how the "BOOM" thing goes, I think we have to express our individual personalities on the court, within reason of course.
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