POE for NFHS 2012-13

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ToolinFool

I think that if a player with the ball dribbles around a screen, he would, or should have gotten his head and shoulders past the defensive player that is guarding him. This act in its self would or should cause the count to be stopped.

Why would you think that? A defender can easily go under a screen and stay in a guarding position the entire time. It would actually be pretty hard for the dribbler to get head/shoulders past the defender in such a case. They could, however, more easily break 6'.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why would you think that? A defender can easily go under a screen and stay in a guarding position the entire time. It would actually be pretty hard for the dribbler to get head/shoulders past the defender in such a case. They could, however, more easily break 6'.

NCAA does explicitly state that if an offensive player is standing between the defender and the ball (such as with a screen), there is no closely guarded situation.

I believe NFHS has no such provision; I believe this triggered a discussion here in the past.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

NCAA does explicitly state that if an offensive player is standing between the defender and the ball (such as with a screen), there is no closely guarded situation.

I believe NFHS has no such provision; I believe this triggered a discussion here in the past.

But that is only because they (NCAA) declared it to be so, not because any of the requirements of the basic closely guarded rule have been lost.

[Nevadaref]

"5. Contact between players in free throw lane spaces prior to the ball contacting the ring
a. It is illegal to physically contact an opponent prior to the ball legally contacting the ring."

Now who from the NFHS wrote this silliness? Someone please cite a rule which supports this. To my knowledge, there isn't one. There is only a provision that a player in a marked lane space cannot break the plane of that space with his foot prior to the ball contacting the ring or backboard.

The players can touch each other, they just cannot foul each other. This is not a throw-in boundary plane!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The players can touch each other, they just cannot foul each other.

... and players do this all the time, and when they do, and someone complains, we tell them to "knock it off", and they always comply. I never considered charging a foul when players play "patty cake" in this situation. Does the NFHS want us to consider all contact in this situation illegal?