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[bainsey]

Never had to toss anyone in basketball (I doubt I'll get to ten, let alone twenty), only once ever, in soccer, an AC in a U-12 girls' tournament. He was also a parent.

I'm always curious about what motivates such behavior that will get one tossed. Of those coaches you all tossed, how many were also parents?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Never had to toss anyone in basketball (I doubt I'll get to ten, let alone twenty), only once ever, in soccer, an AC in a U-12 girls' tournament. He was also a parent.

I'm always curious about what motivates such behavior that will get one tossed. Of those coaches you all tossed, how many were also parents?

I am certain the woman that I got rid in the AAU game a few weeks ago was a parent. If not a parent, certainly closer to one than a coach.

Peace

[Adam]

Summer ball, most coaches, especially ACs, are parents.

Sadly, the HC in my game should have been done as well. I called one on him as I tried to explain why he was seat belted. I couldn't get the first sentence out before he brought up a first half situation that I had to shut him down on.

Game manager came (running both gyms at this location) and baby sat him, and also gave him a bit of a rules lesson (I'm guessing he now understands the concept and consequences of indirect technical fouls.)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Summer ball, most coaches, especially ACs, are parents.

Sadly, the HC in my game should have been done as well. I called one on him as I tried to explain why he was seat belted. I couldn't get the first sentence out before he brought up a first half situation that I had to shut him down on.

Game manager came (running both gyms at this location) and baby sat him, and also gave him a bit of a rules lesson (I'm guessing he now understands the concept and consequences of indirect technical fouls.)

This is the reason that most HS and college coaches cannot stand AAU coaches. For one they hardly can coach. Secondly they have no idea of rules or standards, which is why I had to constantly explain how to call a timeout to a particular coach (from Oklahoma BTW). And then I had another coach suggest that I had to give a warning before I T'd her behind up (from Michigan), but somehow left when I gave the second T without incident.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is the reason that most HS and college coaches cannot stand AAU coaches. For one they hardly can coach. Secondly they have no idea of rules or standards, which is why I had to constantly explain how to call a timeout to a particular coach (from Oklahoma BTW). And then I had another coach suggest that I had to give a warning before I T'd her behind up (from Michigan), but somehow left when I gave the second T without incident.

Peace

I get that. To his credit, he came up and apologized to me after the game was over.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

...And then I had another coach suggest that I had to give a warning before I T'd her...Peace

During a Hoop Groop game I T'd A1 for elbowing B1 in the chest after I had just whistled B1 for a foul. Coach A then proceeded to tell me what a great kid A1 is and finished his monologue by stating that I should have given a warning first. Ironically Coach A earned his own T 2 or 3 minutes later (while his team was shooting free throws).

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You see things in summer you would never see or hear during the regular season. Interesting is a nice way to put their behavior.

Peace

My experience as well! As a young official, I started working some higher level AAU ball this summer and ran into nutty coaches. Truth be told I was taken aback at the behavior I saw because the regular HS season is not like that. I know it was a great learning expereince and I did npt handle everything right. To top it off my summer assignor was watching and he chatted with my partner and I whho is also a young official.

My concern is hopefully this one game will be viewed just as that one game and not held against me!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

My experience as well! As a young official, I started working some higher level AAU ball this summer and ran into nutty coaches. Truth be told I was taken aback at the behavior I saw because the regular HS season is not like that. I know it was a great learning expereince and I did npt handle everything right. To top it off my summer assignor was watching and he chatted with my partner and I whho is also a young official.

My concern is hopefully this one game will be viewed just as that one game and not held against me!

Well if anyone has any sense that you work with, they will realize the cesspool that AAU can be and is with many officials. Again if I go to a college camp and there are 2 or 3 ejections and the coaches are crying to clinicians about why they got ejected, then that is all you need to know about what happens in these leagues. That is why I said I doubt seriously that anything happening in these games as it relates to coaches is going to be accurately evaluated or set a standard for your entire career. I do not know about you, but here no one gives these games out with the intention to prove something. Heck the only thing that is considered in my area is often you want the most experience or respected officials working the title games if you can. But since many experienced officials either refuse or do not make themselves available for these games in the first place, this is often whatever officials are around works the best games available. And in the tournament I worked, there were many officials working games that were over their head from a talent and level perspective.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Seems I'm good for about 1 a year - never know which sport it's going to pop up in though. 18 years in 2 sports, 7, 3, 3, 1, and 1 in others. My first? a 5 year old boy in football. My 2nd? Same kid a few weeks later. My 3rd an announcer.

It got more normal after that.

[grunewar]

I've only tossed one coach. Rec League. Blah, blah, blah.......

His team was down by a bunch when he left and came back to win...... whoda thought?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I've only tossed one coach. Rec League. Blah, blah, blah.

That doesn't even count.

[amusedofficial]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are we counting regular season games or these summer/off-season contests. If that is the case I have no idea how many I have sent to the showers. I know I ejected a coach in AAU this year and one during the college season this past season. I cannot remember the last ones before those times. Then again I have not counted either.

Peace

If you're doing AAU and haven't ejected a coach, you haven't been doing AAU.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

If you're doing AAU and haven't ejected a coach, you haven't been doing AAU.

Actually I've never ejected an AAU coach. I've T'd up my share but have never had to send one packing.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I've only tossed one coach. Rec League. Blah, blah, blah.......

Originally Posted by BillyMac

That doesn't even count.

I've whacked my fair share for sure. But the opportunity hasn't presented itself and I guess I haven't felt they crossed the line.

But, I have three games tonight.... "So you're telling me there's a chance... *YEAH!*" (Dumb and Dumber quote)

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

My first? a 5 year old boy in football. My 2nd? Same kid a few weeks later. My 3rd an announcer.

Okay, I'm intrigued. Details, please?