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Old Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:54pm
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The question that should have been asked is not whether or not he disagrees with calls made, but whether or not he will point out mistakes by JVG on the air. A full-time gig.
I'm sure ESPN will tell them to have some interplay about calls. It'll make for a better broadcast. He shouldn't be there to jump down JVG's throat. I don't think that would make Javie look good.

Interesting sitaution I noticed watching the NFL network last week. An old playoff game - from the 90s - was on and there was a very odd play. The officials ruled it correctly and Dick Enberg was rattling on how the call didn't make sense and that the NBC crew should ask Jerry Seeman (who was the officiating supervisor and happened to be in the press box) whether the crew handled it right. Seeman said "yes"...and Enberg still complained that the ruling made no sense!
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More of the big sports are allowing some media scrutiny of this sort. Former NHL referee Kerry Fraser does a column for TSN (our ESPN) that evaluates controversial situations as suggested by fans. It's been really useful (really interested to see what he says about the controversial call in tonight's Stanley Cup game, as a matter of fact).

This kind of real-time interactive 'accountability' will only enhance the officials' credibility. Those guys get it right so often that highlighting their calls will just confirm that fact.
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:52pm
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They had Javie on SportsCenter...wasn't a very long segment. Talked about Hardin trying to fool an official into a defense foul with a leg kick...then talked about a block/charge play involving Wade and Colllinson.

To be fair, this was a pretty clean game, so wasn't much to talk about.
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More of the big sports are allowing some media scrutiny of this sort. Former NHL referee Kerry Fraser does a column for TSN (our ESPN) that evaluates controversial situations as suggested by fans. It's been really useful (really interested to see what he says about the controversial call in tonight's Stanley Cup game, as a matter of fact).

This kind of real-time interactive 'accountability' will only enhance the officials' credibility. Those guys get it right so often that highlighting their calls will just confirm that fact.
I'd be more interested in added scrutiny to the idiocy coming from the mouths of the announcers, which tends to inflame fan sentiment.
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Team Javie up with JVG. That would be worth watching. One fool (JVG) getting run over with facts rather than his form of fiction.
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Old Sat Jun 16, 2012, 04:05am
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Team Javie up with JVG. That would be worth watching. One fool (JVG) getting run over with facts rather than his form of fiction.
During Game 2 JVG stated that he knows how hard officiating is because he tried to officiate several scrimmages in practice!

Clearly, that's the same as calling the NBA Finals.
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Old Sat Jun 16, 2012, 10:08am
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During Game 2 JVG stated that he knows how hard officiating is because he tried to officiate several scrimmages in practice!

Clearly, that's the same as calling the NBA Finals.
how could he know how hard it really is since he doesn't know the rules, or anything about being objective, impartial and unbiased.
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Old Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:03am
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That's all nice

I'll be really, really impressed when someone hires retired official to explain the calls, or more importantly, the no-calls, to parents. Maybe they can have a smartfone app with an earphone and get it explained while the game is in progress so they don't make fools of themselves. Needed especially for the two most brutal types of parent -- a) JVG in general and b) BV parents who think the guy with the whistle stands between their good-but-not-quite-superstar kid and NCAA-1 glory.
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During Game 2 JVG stated that he knows how hard officiating is because he tried to officiate several scrimmages in practice!

Clearly, that's the same as calling the NBA Finals.
And I know how to coach because I'm helping my son's tball team.
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Do it like the NFL on Fox?

They should have Javie in the studio ready to jump in with Magic and crew at halftime or longer unusual breaks for commentary. JVG is very good at jumping down an official or the rulebooks throat in game and being very level headed during these 5:00 minute segments after the damage is already done.
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