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Old Thu Jun 07, 2012, 03:51pm
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If you have complaints about the officiating, you need to take it up with the league director rather than the officials directly.
There it is, Coach.

You made the wrong choices in how you handled your objections. (BNR had the perfect analogy in going into a judge's chambers.) Had you walked off the court, found a game supervisor (be it right then or later), and expressed your viewpoints to him/her, there's no way you could have earned a technical foul and extended the game. The officials on the court don't care how many times you have been T'd up or tossed in the past; it's all about your behavior within their jurisdiction at that time.

Incidentally, the "rule itself" are indeed the rules that were cited to you. My best suggestion is for you to learn from this experience (we're all never too old to learn), and arrange for another volunteer coach -- for the kids' sake.
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Old Fri Jun 08, 2012, 12:32am
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I want to reiterate something. Even if the officials had left the court and returned by the time you gave your two bits', I would have fully expected a suspension for your actions. Anything short, and I (along with any of the assigners I work with) would have stopped working this particular league.

Do yourself a favor, find out who assigns these games and ask them what you need to do to get assigned some of these games. Then do it and actually work some 6th grade rec games.

What did you expect to accomplish with your comments?

Here's the thing. This crew is doing these games for one of two reasons:
1. To give the kids a chance to play.
2. To get better at officiating.

I work summer games for #2. Tomorrow, I'll be driving over 50 miles round trip for $30 and three games. It's not for the money; it's because I care about getting better. An assistant coach's comments aren't going to make me care more or try harder.
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Old Fri Jun 08, 2012, 07:56am
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First off, I want to nominate this for post of the year. This continues to be the most entertaining post of the year.

My comment is that 'coaches' like this are what cause some refs to give it up because it is no longer worth doing. Some guys just max out on the BS and stop enjoying it and give it up and this is why. For most of us it is not about the money and if you don't enjoy it why do it?
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:17pm
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Here's the thing. This crew is doing these games for one of two reasons:
1. To give the kids a chance to play.
2. To get better at officiating.

I work summer games for #2. Tomorrow, I'll be driving over 50 miles round trip for $30 and three games. It's not for the money; it's because I care about getting better. An assistant coach's comments aren't going to make me care more or try harder.
Hmmmmmm, Snaqs...you usually seem pretty insightful, but I gotta tell you "reason" #2 wouldn't be one of MY reasons for doing 6th grade ball.

When an official is just getting started officiating...you bet...but, I don't really think a veteran official is going to "get better" doing 6th grade ball....they may even pick up some bad habits if they are not careful.

Maybe, #3. To do my assignor a favor.
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Old Thu Jun 07, 2012, 01:12pm
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I walked up to one after the game, simply told him that it was the worst refereed game I’d been a part of for 15 years (8 injury timeouts had to be called because players were falling down getting injured and several crying! because of “no calls”). Game over, we won OT 37-35.They were sitting at the scorers table waiting for the next game to start.

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If after a trial you walked into the judge's chambers univited and told him he is the worst judge you've ever seen in your life would your deed go unpunished?
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If after a trial you walked into the judge's chambers univited and told him he is the worst judge you've ever seen in your life would your deed go unpunished?
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Well said, BNR!
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Old Thu Jun 07, 2012, 01:39pm
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(8 injury timeouts had to be called because players were falling down getting injured and several crying! because of “no calls”).
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Old Thu Jun 07, 2012, 01:50pm
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...(8 injury timeouts had to be called because players were falling down getting injured and several crying! because of “no calls”)...
Still trying to figure out how an official's whistle after the play would have prevented the injuries or crying?
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Still trying to figure out how an official's whistle after the play would have prevented the injuries or crying?
I see crying all the time when kids think there should have been a whistle. It's normally accompanied by coach's whining, though.
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Still trying to figure out how an official's whistle after the play would have prevented the injuries or crying?
I saw a kid cry one time because the opponent was playing defense on him. Kids cry when they don't play too, so it has nothing to do with anything an official does and stupid people like this guy actually think it somehow is a correlation. Heck if the kids played on a tile floor, I am sure anytime they fell they were crying too.

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I saw a kid cry one time because the opponent was playing defense on him. Kids cry when they don't play too, so it has nothing to do with anything an official does and stupid people like this guy actually think it somehow is a correlation. Heck if the kids played on a tile floor, I am sure anytime they fell they were crying too.

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Dear DMAN:

First, let me thank you for creating the most entertaining thread I have read on this discussion board since...I can't remember when.

Second, I believe you got the answer to your question about the officials jurisdiction. Are you still considering approaching the board about your suspension? I think, as my peers have so eloquently pointed out, you would be well advised to serve your suspension and just let it go. Maybe consider being a good sport here, instead of a lawyer.

Third, who are the women standing behind you on your web page and why are they there?

And last..I also live in Florida. What's a Super Lawyer? Seems like an oxymoron.
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