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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 02:39pm
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I almost hurled the remote at the TV when I heard that one...Instead of getting an OPEN shot with a beautiful fake (which he did), these two geniuses advocate trying to draw a marginal, B.S. foul to win or tie by "jumping into" the defender. Had the shot gone in...these two would be babbling on and on about Wade doing the right thing...a brilliant decision...big time player...blah, blah, blah.

Between them and JVG's complete ignorance of ANYTHING related to the rules, I find myself talking to (yelling at) the TV more and more. My wife thinks I'm losing it. Next game will be watched with the volume off.
Hmmm, I have never seen JVG play, but I have seen Magic play a game or two...or a thousand! Although he may be wrong on this one, and he is not the most eloquent speaker, but he is Magic Johnson for crying out loud!

I think Pierce's sixth foul was an easy call. I wish they would have shown an angle similar to Crawford's on LeBron's sixth foul. It looks like he was moving backwards and could have pinned the defender's arm.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 02:45pm
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Hmmm, I have never seen JVG play, but I have seen Magic play a game or two...or a thousand! Although he may be wrong on this one, and he is not the most eloquent speaker, but he is Magic Johnson for crying out loud!

I think Pierce's sixth foul was an easy call. I wish they would have shown an angle similar to Crawford's on LeBron's sixth foul. It looks like he was moving backwards and could have pinned the defender's arm.
I wish they showed an alternate angle on LeBron's sixth foul as well...I also thought that LeBron clamped the defender's left arm, but an opposite angle shot would have shown that best.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 02:58pm
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I agree that angle would be better, but you can tell that LBJ took his body to move his defender to the floor. Yes there was some arm contact by the defender, but he was put in a helpless position by the body movement alone to the floor. You have bodies on the floor; you better know how they got there. Joey saw that entire play by his positioning and his angle and got the call right. The media is just stupid as hell and they apparently want a gun to be used before someone can be called for a foul. But if little contact on near the basket takes place and the shooter is "hit" no matter how legal the defender is, they want every little foul to be called. Or they complain if the right person does not get a foul call. Sports media are the most inept group of people in all of media. I see political media people point out the smallest inconsistency in a claim and the sports media cannot look at a rulebook or the box score and see how stupid these claims they make. They are just plain lazy.

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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 03:11pm
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I agree that angle would be better, but you can tell that LBJ took his body to move his defender to the floor. Yes there was some arm contact by the defender, but he was put in a helpless position by the body movement alone to the floor. You have bodies on the floor; you better know how they got there. Joey saw that entire play by his positioning and his angle and got the call right. The media is just stupid as hell and they apparently want a gun to be used before someone can be called for a foul. But if little contact on near the basket takes place and the shooter is "hit" no matter how legal the defender is, they want every little foul to be called. Or they complain if the right person does not get a foul call. Sports media are the most inept group of people in all of media. I see political media people point out the smallest inconsistency in a claim and the sports media cannot look at a rulebook or the box score and see how stupid these claims they make. They are just plain lazy.

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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 07:04pm
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I love how people think just because they know who Joey Crawford is, they can exclaim how he is the worst officialthey've ever seen. He has his quirks, and has been known to be a hothead, but he is one of the most experienced officials there is.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 07:26pm
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I love how people think just because they know who Joey Crawford is, they can exclaim how he is the worst officialthey've ever seen. He has his quirks, and has been known to be a hothead, but he is one of the most experienced officials there is.
Every NBA official is the worst they've ever seen. I can guarantee this...if there's a game 7 in the NBA Finals, he WILL be the crew chief for that game.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 08:23pm
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He's at it again tonight.

"They need to move that restricted line out further. The charge has become to big of an impediment to spectacular driving plays."

Yeah, let's just remove all defensive aspects from the game so we can go back to the days of the ABA and scores of 161 - 148.

What an idiot.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2012, 03:35am
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I love how people think just because they know who Joey Crawford is, they can exclaim how he is the worst officialthey've ever seen. He has his quirks, and has been known to be a hothead, but he is one of the most experienced officials there is.
Fans do not like him because he will not put up with the players sh!t. The league obviously likes him and why he keeps getting the assignments he gets. So much for what the fans think.

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Old Wed Jun 06, 2012, 03:32am
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Some of them try (IMO Elmore, Fraschilla, Kellogg to a certain extent). Others are just there to be heard. I work in the media - and for a while I worked in sports media - so it really drives me crazy when they screw stuff up.

Stephen Bardo (ESPN) called me a "hater" because I pointed out some rule screwups he made on his Twitter page. I said it's not hating, it's providing knowledge.
Funny you mentioned him. I officiated his son a couple of years ago in a Sectional Final game. I was not impressed by his comments about his rules knowledge of the game then and certainly not when I hear him on TV.

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Old Wed Jun 06, 2012, 05:25pm
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Funny you mentioned him. I officiated his son a couple of years ago in a Sectional Final game. I was not impressed by his comments about his rules knowledge of the game then and certainly not when I hear him on TV.

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I've decided to reach out to "analysts" (Twitter, e-mail, etc.) whenever I can if I hear them say something incorrect regarding the rules. It's my crusade to spread knowledge among the masses
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2012, 06:19pm
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I've decided to reach out to "analysts" (Twitter, e-mail, etc.) whenever I can if I hear them say something incorrect regarding the rules. It's my crusade to spread knowledge among the masses
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 03:48pm
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Hmmm, I have never seen JVG play, but I have seen Magic play a game or two...or a thousand! Although he may be wrong on this one, and he is not the most eloquent speaker, but he is Magic Johnson for crying out loud!
Nobody would ever dispute his skills as a player, but I was kinda shocked by his attitude here...try to draw a cheap foul?... instead of taking a gutsy shot after a beautiful fake? It just seemed out of character for him...especially the way HE played the game. That's why it pains me to see HOF caliber players try to slide into an anlalysts role. JVG..I expect the nonsense out of him. Magic...I guess I expect more.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 04:53pm
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Nobody would ever dispute his skills as a player, but I was kinda shocked by his attitude here...try to draw a cheap foul?... instead of taking a gutsy shot after a beautiful fake? It just seemed out of character for him...especially the way HE played the game. That's why it pains me to see HOF caliber players try to slide into an anlalysts role. JVG..I expect the nonsense out of him. Magic...I guess I expect more.
Why would ANYONE want to see JVG play? Oh, you mean Van Gundy? Never mind.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 06:27pm
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A seven personal foul limit would be reasonable for any game that goes into overtime, because how many games go into overtime? In addition, a select few go further than one overtime.
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